Talk:34th Infantry Division (United States)

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Units[edit]

WWII: the 194th was deployed in the Phillipines at the outbreak of WWII. Will add some info and links in the future. Ktinga 19:30, 21 Mar 2007 (UTC)

The unit was deployed to OIF in April 2006 - i know, i was there with them B/1-125 Strike - Scania Iraq —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldo1 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

116th Cavalry Brigade[edit]

116th Cavalry Brigade is now a separate Brigade:

  • 116th Cavalry Brigade Combat Team (HBCT), (ID NG)
    • 2nd Squadron (RSTA), 116th Cavalry Regiment (Armed Recon), (ID NG)
    • 1st Battalion, 163rd Infantry Regiment (Combined Arms) (MT NG)
    • 3rd Battalion, 186th Armor Regiment (Combined Arms) (OR NG)
    • 1st Battalion, 148th Field Artillery Regiment, (ID NG)
    • 145th Support Battalion, (ID NG)
    • Special Troops Battalion, 116th HBCT
--noclador (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not according to the 34th IDs homepage. http://www.dma.state.mn.us/units/unit_template.php?unit=PUNRR What is the source of your information? Shrike6 (talk) 23:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to global security the 116th Cavalry is an Enhanced Separate Brigade, but on the other hand all National Guard homepages and globalsecurity pages are outdated by years. As far as I know nobody has a reliable source as to what the new structure of the Army National Guard will be. If you have a source with actual data, please share it! --noclador (talk) 08:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My data comes from 2005, along with correlating it with other sources. The 2005 data shows 32 bcts this was before they converted 6 of the brigades to other roles. The 2005 data is no longer available over the web though although I do have it archived on another board and on some disk I cant find at the moment. Plus the 34th ID's own website was updated in the last 6-9 months and it correlates the data that I had for the combat brigades anyway.

http://www.orbat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=48 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrike6 (talk • contribs) 16:22, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The question is: which 6 BCTs have been converted to other roles? and which divisions will consist of just three Brigades?? with which units? I'm working on a complete force OrBat graphic for the US Army and the National Guard (see User:Noclador#done and scroll down to US-Army), but currently I'm struggling to get clear and error-free data on the future structure of National Guard, which is quite impossible to find!... --noclador (talk) 23:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats easy. The 26th, 149th, 218th, 58th and 92nd BCTs are converting to MEBs. The 207th BCT converted to the 297th BfSB. Those are the 6. Shrike6 (talk) 23:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thanks - this helps a lot :-) I have now an almost complete list of the units and will update/correct the already created OrBat graphics with your data. One question remains: counting the Brigades in your OrBat listing I counted 34 Brigades minus the 6 that have converting to other types of Brigades 28 Brigades remain, which is correct (as far as I know) but this leaves the 29th Infantry Div. with just two Brigde Combat Teams: the 30th HBCT and the 116th IBCT... on the other hand the 36th Infantry Div. will have five Brigades... I provisionally created a list of the future structure of the Divisions below. Could you please check if the list is correct? Thanks, for your help; --noclador (talk) 08:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks right to me, although I wonder if they wont reshuffle the divisions at some point to balance them out. If I hear anything else I'll let you know N. Shrike6 (talk) 14:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Divisions[edit]

February 2009 deployment[edit]

The 34th announced a February 2009 deployment. http://www.theredbulls.org/article20 -- SEWilco (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wwII training where[edit]

Did the 34th train at Camp Claiborne in Louisiana as I have seen elsewhere. Need to know so links to Camp Claiborne can be added.

Also need to know if any others trained in Louisiana

--Sattmaster (talk) 17:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they did. Try that new thing called Google and type: 34th "Red Bulls" train at Camp Claiborne in Louisiana -- SEWilco (talk) 21:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resource Materiel[edit]

For those with questions about the 34th's service prior to and during World War Two, I'd recommend checking out the book 'Dogfaces Who Smiled Through Tears' by Homer R Ankrum. This is not meant as a plug for the book, just trying to help. My grandfather served with the 34th in WW2, and after reading his gift copy he said it was basically accurate to the best of his first-hand knowledge. Last I knew the 34th Divisions web page had a link / info on how to order the book. A good read. Sector001 (talk) 02:10, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gustav Braun[edit]

General Gustav J. Braun, Jr. was the assistant division commander of the 34th Division at the time of his death in 1945 in combat in Italy. He isn't mentioned anywhere in the article, nor does he have his own. Very interesting. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 23:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Official Name[edit]

Since at least 2007, the officially accepted proper name of the division has been the “34th Red Bull Infantry Division”[1][2][3][4][5]. Per the currently published division style guide, the use of parenthesis, quotation marks or other punctuation or antiquated abbreviations are no longer authorized, i.e. 34th Inf. Div., 34th “Red Bull” Infantry Division, 34th (Red Bull) Infantry Division, 34th Infantry Division (Red Bulls), etc.. This is in keeping with other similarly named units like the 10th Infantry Division, known by it’s proper name now as the 10th Mountain Division. Question on this can be directed to the division staff on this account. The Red Bulls (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.MinnesotaNationalGuard.org/34id
  2. ^ https://www.facebook.com/TheRedBulls
  3. ^ https://twitter.com/theredbulls
  4. ^ https://www.dvidshub.net/unit/34ID
  5. ^ Style Guide of the 34th Red Bull Infantry Division (internal release only)
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Days on front line[edit]

The 517 days the 34th ID spent on the front line are lauditory, but are less than the 654 days the 32nd ID accumulated fighting from New Guinea to the Philippines. See Wisconsin national guard museum. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 02:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

suggested edit[edit]

"Combat Chronicles": 9 Sept 1943 timeline Great article! Join ASMIC 2600:1700:80E6:8130:9401:3D83:87A7:3427 (talk) 14:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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