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May 29

LaTex not rendering when using MS-Edge. Local or global?

I've noticed this happens in MSEdge on and off, and there does not appear to be a pattern or obvious (to me anyway) reason. For example, on the page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_particle

equation (1) appears as

$ E^{2}=(p{\textrm {c}})^{2}+\left(m_{0}{\textrm {c}}^{2}\right)^{2}\, $

I tried different "tricks" in the editor, but nothing appears to work. Chrome and Firefox do not have this problem (this is probably also true for other html readers, but have not checked.

I would like to know if anyone else experiences this, or is it some problem I have locally? thanks Joe wiki eds (talk) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Joe wiki eds: It renders without problems for me using legacy vector skin and Edge browser on Windows 10. RudolfRed (talk) 01:25, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

It works for me. Is SVG selected under "Math" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks RudolfRed.

I had "LaTeX source (for text browsers)" selected under math instead of "SVG".

Cheers! Joe wiki eds (talk) 06:47, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I get my accounts back

take back what is rightfully mine Retodo471 (talk) 03:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Retodo471 If your account has been compromised, instructions are at Compromised accounts. You are unlikely to regain access to your account. Toadspike [Talk] 12:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

How can I stop my personal information from being sold on the dark web

leaked data Retodo471 (talk) 03:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Retodo471, this help desk is for questions about using or editing Wikipedia, and isn't a general Q&A board. Are you referring to a Wikipedia account? If so, could you provide the name of the account? If this is not about Wikipedia, you would likely be better helped by searching the internet or asking these questions on a website designed for Q&A. Tollens (talk) 03:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Retodo471, I read here that you are: a developer product testing and feedback marketing research working with area 51 and fortknox [sic] top secret navel [sic] base and the CIA and FBI and local law enforcement along with my advertising ID. With that level and variety of expertise, and those security clearances, I'm confident that you'll be able to retrieve your accounts yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 07:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit Dutch pages

Hi, I have an account on en.wiki.. and am trying to turn it into a global account so I can edit nl.wiki.. pages because I am a native Dutch speaker and writer. It does not seem to work.. what should I do in.order to be able to edit nl.wiki pages?

Thanks, Koen Kmlinders (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

According to a comment here, you may need to disable any browser option which says "Block third party cookies". Another suggestion I have seen is to explicitly log out (that is a link which, for me, appears at the top, right of any page). Then log in again. If that doesn't help and there is no better advice here, ask again at WP:VPT. Johnuniq (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

You could try going to nl-Wiki and logging in there. Mjroots (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Referring to a young person who's the subject of an article ...

I'm editing an article on the young soon-to-be-canonized saint Carlo Acutis. He was only a teenager when he died. Throughout the article, he is referred to as Acutis. Somehow it seems to me that because of his youth, it would be more natural to refer to him as Carlo instead and I'd like to make that change article-wide.

What guidance is there on this sort of thing in Wikipedia? Augnablik (talk) 10:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Augnablik the manual of style guidance is at MOS:SURNAME. TSventon (talk) 11:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, @TSventon, for such a quick resolution! Apparently even children are referred to by surname unless members of the same family are also involved in the same discussion. I wouldn't have expected that. Augnablik (talk) 11:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Augnablik if you are interested in the reasons for the current guidance you could search for "children" in the talk page archives. The issue was discussed here in 2017. TSventon (talk) 11:35, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks again @TSventon. I checked out the source you mentioned. It was helpful to find a discussion going into so many of the same issues I was interested in on this topic. Augnablik (talk) 04:46, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Put in more information in the "Paul Wesley" article under personal life

Hello,

I would like for your editors to put in this information in the personal life section with Paul Wesley:

"Wesley has been in a relationship with the Brazilian/German model Natalie Kuckenburg since 2023, February."

//Lazar B SaintHeihachi (talk) 11:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@SaintHeihachi: Do you have a reliable source for that? That is also something you should be putting at Talk:Paul Wesley. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:26, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

have editor proofread and approve edits

Hello. I have been editing information for Gerard Karam. I have made edits, such as changed Arts to Science, in Education. Also added more details in bio. They revert back to original. Received email to ask editor to approve edits. When editing, don't see how to do that. PALEGALSECGMK (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Gerard Karam

The edits were reverted because the additions were not supported by inline sources. Even if what you have added is true, we can't include it on Wikipedia unless other people (readers and editors) can verify the information with published sources. Reconrabbit 13:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Uploading new logo

Dear Wikipedia,

I am trying to upload another logo to the Armada Music Wikipedia page because it still has the old logo right now. They have changed their logo for a couple of years now, so I want to fix that. Now that I am trying to upload the logo Wikipedia says it's copyrighted. How am I able to upload the new logo to Wikipedia if I don't have the copyright, because now the information on the page is wrong? Madstew (talk) 13:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Logos are one of the cases when non-free images are frequently used in articles. Please see WP:LOGO for how to do it.

Far more significant than the logo is the poor quality of the sourcing: I'm not sure that even one of the sources meets the triple requirement of being reliable, independent, and containing significant coverage of the subject. Without several such sources, the label will not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 14:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

@Madstew If a logo is simple enough, it could be below the threshold of originality, which means it is in the public domain and cannot be copyrighted. You would then need to choose the corresponding license option when uploading the image here or at Wikimedia Commons. Toadspike [Talk] 12:10, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Noel Ashman bio removed

Hi - I am trying to get Noel Ashman's page "unsalted" - apparently it was removed/taken down, after some contributors had added false information to it. Would you please direct me to what I need to do to return his previous page that can be added back to wikipedia. Ashmanassistant (talk) 13:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The biography wasn't deleted because of 'false information'. It has however been deleted, repeatedly, because evidence that Ashman meets our notability guideline has not been provided: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noel Ashman (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Noel_Ashman_(3rd_nomination). Unsalting will require evidence that the guideline can if fact be met, through significant in-depth coverage in published reliable sources. I suggest you start by finding them, and linking them here. And please note that if you are indeed Ashman's assistant, you will be required to conform to the Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Nakba

good afternoon.

With relation to the'Nakba' how can someone call it Ethnic Cleansing when the Arab league attacked Israel? This is misinformation and should be changed for legal reasons to prevent more racial hatred. We need to state facts correctly. 1 million jews ethnically cleansed from Morocco to Iran is a correct statement, The Christian population of Lebanon being massacred is ethnic cleansing, 1 million Greeks displaced from Turkey in 1923 is ethnic cleansing. Andy bandy24 (talk) 14:21, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The Nakba article is about an attack on Palestinians (presumably Muslims), not an attack on Israel. Multiple reliable sources refer to the displacement of Palestinians as ethnic cleansing, and this is discussed in the article. If you want to discuss improvements to the the Nakba article, it's best to do it on the talk page Talk:Nakba. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello,

Yes, but this information is completely false. Where is the supporting evidence? and if it’s ethnic cleansing why did all the Jews get displaced from all the Arab states? It’s only a mater of time before someone spreading this misinformation will be held accountable. 2A00:23C6:8092:BA01:E460:7754:40AA:DBF8 (talk) 17:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Supporting evidences are cited on the article's reference section. If you wish to argue otherwise, please provide reliable sources on the topic to support your claim. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 19:17, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Users have to be extended-confirmed to discuss this topic on any page per the current contentious topics procedures. @Andy bandy24 and the IP editor here do not meet this criteria. Reconrabbit 17:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Accidentally removed a talk page

In trying to request a move for [[The Mall Luton]] I ended up accidentally remove the whole talk page's history *facepalm*. If someone could help by restoring it. Editing anything other than page text is a bit out of my comfort zone so apologies Bobster1001 (talk) 14:54, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I see you made multiple edits. Which one should I undo? Sage or something (talk) 15:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

The only net change[1] to Talk:The Mall Luton is the addition of a RM section. You did no damage. And I left a comment there. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Colonel Boglin

My father Colonel William N Boglin was one of a few Africa American Colonels of his time, he was the hospital administrator and director of medical education at Wilford Hall along with General Chong, he was also under the same Generals command at Malcom Grow. Which my father servers as hospital administrator. Why is there information on General Chong but nothing on my father who paved the way for many officers in the Air Force! 2603:8081:6107:5D84:A9B5:679B:B7B:3F81 (talk) 20:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. The answer to the question "Why isn't there a Wikipedia article on X?" is generally one or both of "Because nobody has written it yet" and "Because X does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability".

"Notable" in Wikipedia's sense, does not mean important, or famous, or popular, or innovatory, or influential, or anything like that, though it sometimes goes with these: it means, roughly, "there is enough information about the X published in reliable, independent sources, to base an article on".

So the question comes down to, did your father get written about (and not just rountine mentions about his career and appointments) in books, newspapers, magazines, unconnected with him and his associates? If the answer is yes, then it is possible there could be an article about him; otherwise, there cannot be an article, no matter how ground-breaking he was.

Getting an article written on a particular subject can be a challenge, unless you manage to inspire somebody to create it. You can requst an article at Requested articles, but in all honesty, few requests there actually get taken up. You might find somebody interested if you post at WT:WikiProject Military history, but there are no guarantees. (If you do some research yourself, and find some of the sources of the kind I mentioned above, that may make the project more attractive to somebody.)

Finally, you are allowed to try and create an article yourself. This is not recommended because of your conflict of interest, and it may make a challenging task even harder. I always advise new editors not to even try creating an article until they have several hundred edits and several weeks of editing under their belt, and have learnt about key policies such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view, and notability. Then they can read your first article, and give it a go. ColinFine (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm getting no significant hits for Colonel William Boglin, and the only William Boglin I'm seeing is an arsonist, so the notability just isn't there. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:58, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

please remind me how to remove a redirect

I believe I have done this before but am blanking on the procedure. Do I just blank the page or do I need to add a template, or?

Specifically, I added an interlanguage link from Michael Servetus#Imprisonment and execution to fr:Guillaume de Trie, who denounced him to the Inquisition as a heretic. The redirect of Guillaume de Trie to Roman Catholic Diocese of Bayeux and Lisieux is counterproductive and impairs readability. Also, while he was in fact Bishop of Bayeux at one point, this is not the most notable thing about him. He was subsequently Archbishop of Reims and tutor to Philippe VI of France, the first Valois. That is why I would change this.

Could someone please advise when they have a minute? I could of course hard code the link with the colon syntax, but this doesn't flag the term as a needed article and is not the preferred solution here. Thanks. Elinruby (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Elinruby, you can use the Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion process. TSventon (talk) 23:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

May 30

artist page

i am a music artist and producer and how do i create a wiki artist page? Dj Brisk (talk) 03:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You don't. There are fewer ventures more doomed to failure than trying to create an article in Wikipedia (there is no such thing as "a wiki artist page") about yourself. --Orange Mike | Talk 04:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Page previews not showing up

Hello,

I am experiencing a technical problem in the Reading Preferences; I enabled the Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups feature on the "Gadgets" to test it, but after I disabled the feature (as for me it wasn't better than the "page preview" option) & re-enabled/checked the page preview option, it's still not giving me previews of any articles.

There's a line beneath the "Enable page previews" that says "If you experience problems please review your gadgets (which I already did) and user scripts, including global ones" ; here I am having some difficulties about understanding what does it mean, and if that's (the "user scripts") has got the problem or not.

I would really appreciate if someone help me out. Thank you! ERA (talk) 06:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Anggona Era: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example?safemode=1 disables gadgets and userscripts so if the problem occurs there then they are not the cause. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Page previews not working for tips which didn't work for another user but might for you. First look for "Edit preview settings". PrimeHunter (talk) 09:52, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Update to legislation

The legislation for Parish councils UK is out of date Wrac (talk) 14:11, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your question is unclear. If you wish to suggest a specific improvement to a specific article, the place to do so is the talk page of that article. Remember to cite a reliable source for your assertion. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I need help submitting a wiki page

I am trying to create a page for Dr. Karida Brown but I have been denied, can someone assist with this? BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 15:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your response ‪Shantavira‬. Do you know of any companies or individuals that I assist with this? BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 15:42, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@BIGDAWGRJ: Beware of scammers. Disreptuable companies and individuals offer this service but cannot actual guarantee that an article will remain on Wikipedia. See WP:SCAM. -Arch dude (talk) 15:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Arch dude@Shantavira could I pay you to help with this task? I am in desperate need of help. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ Wikipedia has no deadlines; what is the source of your desperation? Please do not offer to pay other editors here. 331dot (talk) 16:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

You must want this article to be created really badly. But in the end it comes down to whether the article meets the general notability guideline, and you would not have full control over the article once it was created, as other people could edit it within Wikipedia guidelines.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I do, ive been following Dr. Karida Brown for sometime now and she is well overdue for a page so many others like myself can educate themselves about her work. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

It sounds like you've done pretty well doing that without a Wikipedia article abour her. 331dot (talk) 20:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot I am trying to create a page for Dr. Karida Brown but the page is not accepted. I added citations from credible sources but no approval.

Thank you for the heads up! BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 16:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

The obvious question here is WP:BOSS. Have you been asked to do this?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ianmacm I have not been asked to this but this is a project I am working on to make her researchable BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ Please see your user talk page. Your self made claim of desperation suggests you are more than a mere interested person. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot you are correct. I am the project manager for her husband Charly Palmer and as a gift to her he wants to create a wikipedia page for her before her new book releases October 2024. BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:15, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ You should have said this from the beginning. You must formally declare this, see your user talk page for instructions. Wikipedia is not concerned with outside events and will not accommodate your schedule. Wikipedia articles are not gifts or ways of honoring someone. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@331dot your being really tough and all I asked for was help. If it is not clear I have no idea what im doing here but im trying my best to navigate through these channels. You keep referencing a talk page and I dont know what that is. Im not trying to trick anyone here I just want the best possible route to getting this Wiki page published. If it takes me some time to complete so be it. Just me knowing that it will be completed is good enough for me. Im going to stop responding from here because it seems this is not the way for me to get help. Thank you and everyone here for your time to this manner.

Peace and Love BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

BIGDAWGRJ We're trying to help you, but you need to work with us. Please click User talk:BIGDAWGRJ to access your talk page. 331dot (talk) 19:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I quote the first version of this draft:

Karida L. Brown (born August 9th, 1982) is an American sociologist, author, professor, and public intellectual who serves as Professor of Sociology at Emory University. She served as the inaugural Director of Racial Equity & Action at the Los Angeles Lakers from 2020 to 2022. She is recognized for her scholarship on Black history and culture. Her research also examines the history and function of racial colonial capitalism. She has published widely on a broad array of topics, migration, education, collective memory, and social theory.

It looks familiar, somehow.

Karida L. Brown (born August 9^th, 1982) is an American sociologist, author, professor, and public intellectual who serves as Professor of Sociology at Emory University and Director of Racial Equity & Action at the Los Angeles Lakers. She is recognized for her work writing back into history the lives, stories, and experiences of Black people worldwide. Her research also focuses on the history and functions of systemic racism. She has published widely on a broad array of topics, including migration, education, collective memory, and social theory.

That's from Wipekah's (subsequently deleted) user page.

BIGDAWGRJ, are you Wipekah? Or what's going on here? -- Hoary (talk) 21:51, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary Im not Wipekah or do I know what that is. Im just a guy who is trying to create a Wikipedia Page for my employer wife for a surprise towards her new book. Im just looking help to get her page approved.

When I first attempted to create a document for Karida Brown I accidentally replaced someone else's Wiki Page hence the deleted page. This is my first time creating a page on Wikipedia and just looking for assistance BIGDAWGRJ (talk) 22:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, BIGDAWGRJ, this edit of yours was most unfortunate. But it seems to have been an honest mistake. If you're unacquainted with Wipekah, then how come your draft and Wipekah's are so uncannily similar? -- Hoary (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

I would also point out that a Wikipedia article about someone isn't necessarily a good thing and might not in the long run be appreciated. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Excessive use of the quote parameter in Cite web on Women's Elite Rugby

A new article was created at Women's Elite Rugby with all of the references/citations using the quote parameter in the citations, along side this the Harvard citation no brackets was also used. I went through the article removing the quote parameters (as almost all articles don't use them and in my opinion they were excessive) In doing this I also removed the Harvard citation no brackets and replaced them with {{Cite web}} for consistency. My original reasoning was "Remove quote parameter from citations to reduce redundancy and keep the references concise" and "improve sourcing/citations" the article creator questioned me and i mentioned my reasoning but would just like to make sure I have done nothing wrong. I also would like clarification on the use of the quote parameter. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 23:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

There is such a thing as WP:CITEVAR, which see. That being said, I think that quotations should be only be used when the wikitext is controversial and the source is protected by a paywall. In general, heavy reliance on quotations suggests that editors have not given enough thought to summarizing their sources. When quotations are necessary to the understanding of the article topic, those (few) quotations should be made part of the article body and properly cited. Quotations require citations; citations do not require quotations.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:50, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Noted, thank you. I have let the other editor know about this response. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 00:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

May 31

Comment

Hi, I asked User talk:Prikryl a question and he gave received a reply to me that was snarky and rude. It's not what he said, it was how he said it, like he had no respect for me. This is not the first time he has done this as back in February, he made a comment on the Talk:2024 Women's U-19 World Floorball Championships page which had the same level of disrespect again, calling what I said completely irrelevant.

I feel that some people treat me with no respect on the site and I'm very sensitive and I feel I get these responses too often when I try to be civil with people and they just make hurtful responses and don't care about being civil. It's not the spirit of Wikipedia. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 10:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@ILoveSport2006 The comments you received from @User:Prikryl appear quite reasonable to me. I suggest you take their suggestions on board. This is a collaborative project and editors here expect feedback. If constructive criticism upsets you, perhaps this is not the place for you. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Shantavira Calling my opinion irrelevant and saying (something you hardly ever do) is not constructive. Did you even read mine and his response? I receive this snarkiness from other people too. Just give me the constructive criticism and move on. Don't make snarky comments. How can you say what all he was saying was constructive. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 11:02, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Shantavira The help desk is supposed to help me, not make me feel worst. Can you not say If constructive criticism upsets you, perhaps this is not the place for you. Do you want me to feel worst? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 11:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Prikryl says nothing rude either in his talk page or in Talk:2024 Women's U-19 World Floorball Championships. And if you want specifics, "And what 'looks aesthetically better' is imo completely irrelevant" is fine too. (If, making a design or other editing decision, I were to appeal to some criterion that you found irrelevant to the concerns of Wikipedia's goals, guidelines, policies, etc, then you'd be welcome to call it "irrelevant". You could use "immaterial" or "inconsequential" instead; if you wanted to be ambitious, you could even try something like "nugatory". I'm not saying I'd agree with you: I might disagree. But I wouldn't complain that you hurt my feelings -- primarily because you wouldn't hurt my feelings.) And so I second Shantavira's suggestion above. -- Hoary (talk) 11:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary @Shantavira Even though I understand your points (although, personally, I disagree), you need to understand that in the past, I have received actual personal comments from people that have upset me. So I probably have a lot of paranoia. I probably do take comments the wrong way because I assume they re going for the you're an idiot tone. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 12:08, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@ILoveSport2006 It's really hard to understand tone in online written communications, and as we're a global project there is a myriad of communication styles, some of which may come across as brusk or rude. In the gentlest possible way, I think it's important to have some thick skin and not to take things personally when faced with that.

Wikipedia is not a project that is worth getting upset, paranoid, or anxious over. Qcne (talk) 12:21, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Qcne True. It is sad my brain works like that. I have to stop that. Thanks for the advice. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 12:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Page Title

Hi, I was looking to make a page for the web development software Framer, however since the page 'Framer' is taken I know I will have to append something in parenthesis to the title, and I'm not sure what to put. Thanks! - LostInInfinity (contribs • talk) 13:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Framer (software) would be a good option, in my opinion. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

It's also the name of the company (Framer Inc; b

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based in Amsterdam), so would that change anything? - LostInInfinity (contribs • talk) 19:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Not sure how that newline appeared, I deleted it while editing. Apparently the Wikimedia mobile editor is still broken. - LostInInfinity (contribs • talk) 19:01, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@LostInInfinity: Please do not proceed until you are very sure that Framer is notable by the Wikipedia definition of the term, and that other editors will agree with you. See WP:NCORP. If it's not notable, it cannot have a Wikipedia article, no matter what else you do, and you will be wasting your time ans ours. See WP:AMOUNT. -Arch dude (talk) 16:46, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this article qualifies, as well as this one - LostInInfinity (contribs • talk) 18:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@LostInInfinity: TechCrunch is slightly problematical: see WP:RSP. Tech.eu is not listed there either way, so you might want to go to WP:RSN and ask. Both of these pieces look to me like the kind of reportage my marketing guy got published in the trade press for my company, and if so they are not "independent". I'm just one editor and I would not vote for deletion of your article, but I would really prefer a stronger source. -Arch dude (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Is it possible to upload a different version of a file (or revert it to an older version)?

The page File:Stjepan_Vuk%C4%8Di%C4%87_CoA_element.png has a flag which should have a transparent part in it. Is there a way to do this and make it transparent? 7s3s (talk) 19:49, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@7s3s As with almost any file you find on Common (this one is File:Stjepan Vukčić CoA element.png), you are free to modify it and re-upload it. In this particular case the best solution might be to redraw as an .svg file with transparent background where required. If you can't do that yourself, you can request it be done for you. See WP:LAB Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit request help

This edit request I made was declined twice by @Pppery with no explanation about why it was declined except stating that it was a waste of time. However, the request I made was clearly outlined in this guideline page. Why was it declined? 2003 LN6 20:12, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Why do you care so much whether a redirect has a blank line? Drop the stick. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: I know it does not matter much, however I am opposed to non-guideline conforming instances where a minor fix would be extremely easy to perform. 2003 LN6 21:07, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm opposed to you creating makework for others by obsessing over trivial issues. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:10, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

I mean it can work either way. WP:BROKE may explain your opinion here. I just believe that a simple fix would be good to maintain style. You can choose to decline, but I would still like a reason for declining the offer instead of accusing me of makework. I am only attempting to systematically revise and improve the redirect according to the guideline and mean no harm to anyone. Please check my contributions around late May 29 and you will see that I was formatting many redirects and wanted to keep a uniform style. Thank you! 2003 LN6 01:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, but Pppery's refusal seems reasonable to me. For those who don't feel like clicking through, the guideline's guidance reads Use of a blank line between the redirect target link and all rcats and category links promotes readability of the code. There's not even a "should" or "recommended" in there. The presence or absence of a blank line amidst *checks notes* four lines of code, which makes no difference to the rendered page, which is only visible if people click through the "redirected from" link: this is truly a triviality, like reordering citation template parameters or capitalising the first letter of template calls.

2003 LN6, focusing on deeply unimportant matters such as this is unlikely to win you much social capital on this project. You seem to do a lot of good work in antivandalism, so thank you for that. The issue here is not worth pursuing further. Kindly, Folly Mox (talk) 01:40, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I see, so there are many different acceptable formats for redirect categorization? 2003 LN6 01:49, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Any guidance of type "guideline" describes one of multiple acceptable practices. Rigid adherence to the letter of every recommendation made in projectspace is both impossible due to internal contradictions and additionally not the vibe. Folly Mox (talk) 03:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Folly Mox: Thank you! I will not pursue the subject further. 2003 LN6 04:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

As per Wikipedia:Edit requests, you can start a discussion on the article's talk page to seek other editors' opinions and hopefully form a consensus. If not enough participation was received, consider starting a Request for comment. Help desk isn't a great place for such discussion, as the whole discussion would be archived 4 days later, so better hold a discussion on the talk page of the intended article. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Vincent Longo contribution (bio)

Howdy--My article was accepted! (Yay--and thanks to spinster300 for editorial assistance!). However, I've noticed other bios of famous make-up artists include lists of their famous clients, which we had in a late draft and which featured citations name by name, but that content was removed by the editor before the draft was published presumably because it was deemed inappropriate/irrelevant --something about fame by association. Of course, when you're a famous make-up artist, your client list is your resume and the reason you get to judge Miss USA or appear regularly as "the" expert on Regis & Kelli, et. al. Their fame--is partly the creation of the makeup artist since he/she is the one who provides their "looks" on red carpets, magazines, awards shows, editorial spreads, etc. Also, my subject, is known for his philanthropy, in particular, for a star-studded, "party of the year" event he he co-hosted in Cannes in 2002 that was reported on in major gossip/celebrity/society publications around the world, and which I cited extensively. I want to bulk up the section on his philanthropy (which is linked to his work as a celebrity make-up artist and the owner/founder of a revered cosmetics brand) but worry that such content will be deemed inappropriate. I also don't want to "rat out" any wikipedia bios that do the things I was told I couldn't do. I merely want to include such related and well-documented content too! (LOL). Help? Flgreene13 (talk) 22:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Flgreene13, thank you for disclosing on your user page that you "have been paid by Frederick L Greene- Copywriting on behalf of Vincent Longo for their contributions to Vincent Longo." Simply make your edit requests on Talk:Vincent Longo. Please do "rat out" any Wikipedia bios that are promotional. -- Hoary (talk) 23:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Hoary! I'll take your advice! Flgreene13 (talk) 01:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia for collective visioning

Hello. I am working with others to collectively envision realistic "storylines" of our future based on current and anticipated events and technologies. Would this use case be allowed on Wikipedia given its current policies. I can provide more details if needed, but perhaps this is enough. Thanks! 130.51.143.37 (talk) 23:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia content is based on content verifiable in published reliable sources only. You seem to be describing collaborative original research from contributors, which is not permitted. So sorry, no. AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Too bad. Are you aware of any Wiki-like platforms that might be open to this use case? Thanks for your help. 130.51.143.37 (talk) 00:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Google for "free wiki host". You are of course free to link from your wiki's pages to articles hare on Wikipedia. If you are adventurous, you can implement a mediawiki wiki on a virtual server on the Internet instead of using an already-implemented wiki host. -Arch dude (talk) 00:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

June 1

Wisconsin Geography

This was incorrectly placed on the Wisconsin geography page

Category:Geography of Minneapolis–Saint Paul 135.134.231.118 (talk) 01:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it so maybe it has been fixed. If not, please link to the page you see the problem on. RudolfRed (talk) 01:48, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

permission to use a picture

Baqerabad Castle - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baqerabad_Castle#References

could you please give me permission to use a picture of the castle in my academic paper. Sociologist2015 (talk) 03:30, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Sociologist2015: Permission is already given by the license, which is [2] In short, you can use the image for any purpose as long as you give attribution and release any modifications under the same license, but read the license for all the details. RudolfRed (talk) 03:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Uploading image: not registered editor

A friend, not at all keen on IT though uses email, has taken a photo which would improve an article I have edited. She is not a registered editor and is not interested in editing. As far as I can see, the upload process, whether to Commons or to en.wiki, requires her to be registered. Her reaction is "I really don’t want to have to set up a Wikipaedia account", though I've told her how simple it is to do so. So:

1. Is there any way for her to upload her photo without registering? or
2. Is there any document I can show her which promises that registering an account will not mean that she gets emails from Wikipedia, which I guess is her fear? or
3. Any other ideas on how I can get her photo into the article? PamD 05:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

PamD, I don't get email from Wikipedia, from Wikimedia Commons, from the WMF, etc. Other than occasionally, when somebody clicks on my "Email this user", after I opted to accept such mail. Same for you? If so, just tell her not to opt to receive email. Done. (And Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia, is where to upload.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Hoary I don't get wikipedia junkmail either, but it would be nice to be able to point her to a statement saying "Registering an account will not mean that you start getting emails from Wikipedia"! Do we have a page pointing out the advantages of registering and spelling out that there are no disadvantages to doing so? PamD 07:21, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Jason Miller

Jason Miller was a playwright; but he was also an Academy-award nominated actor... Why does his page say ONLY Playwright in parentheses, that's very silly and misleading... especially since he's more known as an actor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Jason+Miller+(playwright)

2600:6C50:7A7F:1C3E:942A:73D8:58AB:DFE (talk) 06:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

The title (currently Jason Miller (playwright)) (i) should distinguish the man among the various Jason Millers and (ii) shouldn't be misleading. The current title doesn't deny that he was an actor. If you believe that he's more notable as an actor than as a playwright, you're welcome to argue that the article should be moved to (i.e. renamed) Jason Miller (actor). Please read Wikipedia:Requested moves#CM on how to go about this. -- Hoary (talk) 07:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Additional Image

If it is indeed legal to use the cover of "The Resurrection of Pigboy Crabshaw" by The Butterfield Blues Band I think it would be great to include the other side. Excellent portrait photograph of the band as well as track listings and lack of copyright year as it was legal to exclude back then. Unfortunately my copy is in less than perfect condition, but I would submit it if there were no other options (which I doubt; fantastic album!). Inner sleeve is just the standard Elektra pattern. Glizhnegrobichan (talk) 06:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't think that would qualify as fair use. Lack of "copyright year" is irrelevant. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:37, 1 June 2024 (UTC)