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Hebrew Bible translation[edit]

Shouldn't the NJPS translation available at https://www.sefaria.org.il/Genesis.6?lang=en&aliyot=0 be referred to? Mcljlm (talk) 03:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Norse Mythology[edit]

The mythological Abrahamic and Norse giants, respectively the nephilim and jötnar, seem like they may be connected, due to the striking phonic similarities between the terms Nephilim and Niflheim / Niflhel. Is there any reliable evidence of any connection between the two, and is this similarity noteworthy? B. A. Beder (talk) 01:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's only noteworthy if someone other than you has also noted it and has had their work published in an independent reliable verifiable source somewhere. The mere semblance of similarity, however obvious it may appear to you, is not a reason for drawing a conclusion on Wikipedia. That would constitute WP:OR. A loose necktie (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Greek translations[edit]

When discussing the choice of the Greek word 'gigantes' the article makes the claim that 'The Heb. nefilim means literally "the fallen ones" [...]'. This seems to directly contradict the Etymology section which claims that there is no agreed-upon translation of nefilim. I have no expertise to make this call, but I would suspect the Greek translation explanation needs editing. ColoradoBrownstain (talk) 14:42, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NEPHILIM[edit]

Try to translate this in Albania lenguage .. Nephilim in Albanian - Në Fillim .. 95.107.191.5 (talk) 12:34, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology section to be expanded upon[edit]

While the information there is interesting and valuable, there is no actual etymology present. It should be expanded upon. —Polynilium (talk) 14:18, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's clear that the reference to them in Numbers 13 was part of an exaggerated/false report given by the spies sent to scout out Canaan[edit]

The reading is clear to me that these spies said "the land devours people and there's nephilim!" in hopes of avoiding war. God punishes them for this in Numbers 14.

It is not a reliable account that nephilim existed post-flood. 73.150.209.138 (talk) 11:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fallen angels cannot be "sons of God"[edit]

Without this making God their father. That is blasphemy of the worst kind. https://biblehub.com/matthew/12-27.htm And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges.

⁴⁹ Jesus, pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. ⁵⁰ For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_12:49%E2%80%9350

Fallen angels/demons are those who rejected God's commands. In Job 1:6, it says on a certain day the sons of God assembled before Him and Satan was there >also<. That means Satan is also not a son of God. If Satan is the chief of fallen angels then they must not be God's sons, either. ⁶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan^[a] also came among them. 2600:1700:B9C1:20C0:110A:15CB:ADF1:22E2 (talk) 16:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]