Talk:Liberal and Country League

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Was the LCL affiliated with both the Liberal and Country parties during it's whole existence?

LM, New LM and Playmander: last revert[edit]

Exactly how are these not directly related to the LCL? It's like reverting edits on Iraq in Howard's article. Sure the two aren't the same, but they are very intertwined and play a vital part in explaining the broader picture. I almost smell a whiff of POV... Timeshift 03:39, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's nothing to do with POV... it's to do with the tedious repetition of content across articles. No new content of value was added to Wikipedia through those edits. I've noticed this across a wide range of articles that been recently created; I'm going to have to go through and write "original" content for them. michael ^talk 04:11, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What wasn't original about the additions to the LCL page? Timeshift 04:27, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These lines are verbatim from the New LM article: "formed by Robin Millhouse, arguing that the Liberal Party of Australia was no longer worthy of the descriptor liberal ... emergence of the Australian Democrats led many New LM members, including Millhouse and his assistant Janine Haines, to join the fledging party, after which the New LM ceased to exist."
And this bit is a poorly-worded catch from South Australian Legislative Council: "Rural overweighting known as the Playmander resulted in LCL lower house minority and majority governments for decades. Upper house elections since 1941 have held 16 LCL and 4 ALP; voting rights were limited to the wealthier classes; suffrage was dependent on certain property and wage requirements. The electoral districts were drawn to favour regional areas with a 2:1 bias in place." (not only that, it isn't worded properly with "LCL lower house minority and majority governments for decades", and the poor placement of ;'s)

What original content? michael ^talk 04:38, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is free information and not copyrighted. Timeshift 04:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't my point. The point is that readers don't need the same basic information repeated over a number of similar pages. It doesn't add anything. michael ^talk 05:31, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When did the LCL affiliate with the LPA?[edit]

When did the LCL affiliate with the Liberal Party of Australia? matturn 03:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge[edit]

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The result of this discussion was merge . Marcnut1996 (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging this article to Liberal Party of Australia (South Australian Division). There's nothing in either article or anywhere else that I've read that suggests this was anything more than a change of name; they were the same organisation and there's nothing to justify two separate articles. United Labor Party redirects to Australian Labor Party (South Australian Branch), Liberal and Country Party redirects to Liberal Party of Australia (Victorian Division). We don't have separate articles for the Country Party, National Country Party, and National Party. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 13:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support In the proposed merger of the WA division in the LCL WA talk page, I explained that my justification for merging the Victorian division was because Liberal Party of Australia (Victorian Division) had barely anything about its history, which leads to easy merging. For SA division, both Liberal and Country League and Liberal Party of Australia (South Australian Division) have historical information in the wikipage. However, as the information are overlapping, they should be merged together, just trickier than Victoria division. Marcnut1996 (talk) 01:11, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I generally agree as I see your point, although the situation with the LCL was very different from the Victorians (the LCL was equivalent to the situation with the modern Qld LNP rather than the Victorian parties - it was a straight formal merger of the LF and CP). I think it needs a lot of work to make sure the content gets integrated properly so that we don't end up with a worse end product, as the long-standing LCL article is really very good whereas the much more recent state branch article is pretty much thrown together. It shouldn't be done if the merger is going to be half-arsed. The Drover's Wife (talk) 05:14, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have merged both pages together as per discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics/Archive 10#Previous names of parties and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics#Previous names of parties (part 2 - Liberal and Country League SA). Marcnut1996 (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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