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Putting in talk since Ireland's not done yet. john 02:06, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

BTW, we don't have (m)any of the extinct viscountcies yet...this'll be a lot of work. john 02:08, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Sorry to be late, but I had a list of Viscountcies of England prepared earlier; I've just added it. I followed the format of the Earldom, hence making it more complex than the first version.

Emsworth, why did you remove Beauchamp? john 02:15, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Did I? It seems so; it probably got lost in the cut-and-paste. Will be reinstated. -- Emsworth 02:17, Mar 30, 2004 (UTC)

I'll probably have the list of Scottish Viscounts prepared tomorrow evening (just warning others, so that the work is not done twice). -- Emsworth 02:21, Mar 30, 2004 (UTC)

|Viscount Berehaven||1816||White||extinct 1891||in the Peerage of Ireland, subsidiary title of the Earl of Bantry

Needs to go in "Viscountcies in Peerage of Ireland after 1801" section (it'll be too complicated to try to combine UK and Ireland after 1801 as is done with the higher and less numerous grades).

Donald 04:11 BST: That is too sickening. I spend hours editing in all the UK viscountcies, and when I've finally finished it tells me that someone has already done it. Huzzah.

Sorry. :( Proteus (Talk) 08:24, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of consitency, the exact dates should not be put in; the years would be enough. -- Emsworth 20:48, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)

Viscount Kingston[edit]

What about the Viscountcy Kingston that was forfeit in 1715 (only had one viscount till then, Alexander Seton)? When was it created and in which peerage (England, Scotland, Ireland or GB)?
--VM 20:57, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

There's a Viscount Kingston created in the Peerage of Scotland in 1651, for Alexander Seton, 1st Viscount Kingston. The third viscount was attainted in 1715 and the peerage forfeited (see [1]). Mackensen (talk) 21:48, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I have found one more Viscountcy not listed here, but on the webpages where you have linked to, the Viscountcy Fairfax of Emley in the Peerage of Ireland, here the data:

Date	Rank	Order	Name	Born	Died	Age
10 Feb 1629	V[I]	1	Sir Thomas Fairfax, Created Viscount Fairfax of Emley on 10 Feb 1629	1574	23 Dec 1636	62
23 Dec 1636		2	Thomas Fairfax	c 1604	24 Sep 1641
24 Sep 1641		3	William Fairfax	6 Jun 1620	1648	28
1648		4	Thomas Fairfax		25 Feb 1651
25 Feb 1651		5	Charles Fairfax		6 Jul 1711
6 Jul 1711		6	Charles Fairfax		23 Oct 1715
23 Oct 1715		7	Charles Fairfax		6 Jan 1719
6 Jan 1719		8	William Fairfax		18 Nov 1738
18 Nov 1738 to 20 Jan 1772		9	Charles Gregory Fairfax, Peerage extinct on his death		20 Jan 1772

Is this correct? Or are there mistakes? The source is this site: [2]. I am asking because I have also found this one: [3]. --VM (talk) 14:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Palmerston[edit]

I've added Palmerston in the Viscountcies of Ireland. How complete is the list? I noticed Palmerston because of the fame of the third Viscount, but I wouldn't have noticed others. Thanks, William Quill 14:12, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A bold proposal[edit]

Given the discussion here and the general support for moving the article to a more descriptive and accurate title, would anyone object if I moved the article to List of viscountcies in the peerages of the British Isles with a redirect from List of viscountcies? I'm going to propose this for the other peerage pages, as well. Fishhead64 20:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Viscount of Oxfuird[edit]

The Viscount of Oxfuird is included on List of Viscounts in the Peerages of the British Isles, and the current holder even has his own article, but the Viscountcy seems to be missing from this page. Is there a reason why he should not be listed here, or is this an oversight? Alkari (?), 24 July 2008, 23:06 UTC

Complete[edit]

I have gone through all of Leigh Rayment's lists of peerages and added the viscountcies that were missing (there were quite a few). Assuming that Rayment hasn't missed any, this list should now be complete. Tryde (talk) 15:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lisle[edit]

Viscount Lisle's own article says that in 1470 the viscountcy was extinct and the barony abeyant. This list now says the viscountcy was abeyant in 1470 and extinct in 1475. What happened? —Tamfang (talk) 18:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List[edit]

In the list of UK viscountcies, both Kitchener of Khartoum and Broome are shown as extinct but are on the coloured ground signifiying extant. Have I missed something? Haynesta (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Opera hat (talk) 01:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First viscountcy[edit]

The article have conflicting dates of 1432 or 1440 for the first instance of this title. The source given says the 18th year of Henry VI, whose reign started in 1422 so 1440 is correct. That source only gives the year, not the full date, which was unsourced, so I've taken it out. Richard75 (talk) 14:49, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding a Viscount[edit]

How would i go about adding a Viscount to the list, when i did it through edit, it was removed, is this because there wasn't a reference to go with it? I have the history and documentation to go with it but unsure how to put it up. Millo07 (talk) 19:53, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you would need a source, and considering there hasn't been a non-royal viscount created since the 90s, I'd expect that there would be a bunch of sources for this. However, I can't find anything. Emk9 (talk) 23:52, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you buy a title from the Grand Dukedom of Pomerania and Livonia? If so, maybe you got value for money, but it is not a British peerage, and this article is a list of British peerages. —Tamfang (talk) 23:17, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you also bought a square foot of The Hougun Manor Estate, Cumbria, England, you were ripped off. —Tamfang (talk) 23:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Viscount Galway (1628)[edit]

The 1628 Galway creation is numbered among viscountcies in the Peerage of England. However, it is marked as Irish in Sainty https://web.archive.org/web/20161105185647/http://www.history.ac.uk/publications/office/peerage and GEC https://archive.org/details/completepeerageo03coka/page/231/mode/1up . The source quoted here, The Progresses, Processions, and Magnificent Festivities of King James by Nichols, calls it an Irish honour. I suppose it was an Irish and not an English peerage. Mapple (talk) 06:55, 10 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]