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Welcome to my talk page. What goes here? — Random discussion, announcements, notes, questions and arguments! — M3TA(info) @ 20:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Java (announcements)

• NEW! The meaning of all this is that the 'startup' phase of the Java project is finished. The project now switches to its 'mature' phase. I encourage you to put your name in the todo page after one of the remaining tasks. You can also aim to be Coordinator if you so desire. (2010-05-13)

• Great day kids! All 1482 Java pages are now importance-assessed. From now on, let's increase article quality! (2010-05-11)

• Great news folks! We recently got our first-ever Featured Article rating. (2010-05-03)

• We reached another important milestone: all 1450 Java pages are now quality-assessed. Let's finish importance assessment! (2010-04-25)

• Hello guys and dolls, good news! Our second Cleanup listing is now available. So, no more excuses for laziness, let's get to work, all of us... (2010-03-24)

• Totally awesome news! Our project was featured in this edition (2010-03-08) of the Wikipedia Signpost (2010-03-09)

• The Java Cafe is now opened! (2010-03-03)

• Big news again, we now have 300 images within the project scope with more to come soon! (2010-03-02)

• Great news folks! We recently got our first-ever Good Article rating. (2010-02-27)

• Last month ranking stats for the WikiProject Java articles is here. (2010-02-01)

• Current monthly ranking stats for the WikiProject Java articles is here. (2010-01-01)

• Hello guys and dolls, good news! Our first meaningful Cleanup listing is now available. (2009-12-11)

• Hi everybody! We just opened the WikiProject Java (and portal) for business. So enjoy! (2009-10-26)

• Hello everybody! Now that we are at least 5 members, we are able to officialize this thing. Don't you think it would be great if each one of us proudly displayed his membership by placing the Java Userbox on its user (or talk) page... (2009-10-23)

• Hi supporters of the WikiProject Java! And thanks for your support. Now that we are more than 5 supporters, I gather from the Wikipedia guidelines that we CAN proceed with the groundwork, for releasing the project and portal in the open soon. To that effect, we would appreciate it very much if you could copy your name in the List of participants page. (2009-10-23)

• For better and faster discussion between WikiProject Java members a IRC channel could be created at: irc://irc.freenode.net/##WikiProject-Java. For instant access click here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##WikiProject-Java. Please use your Wikipedia nickname. (2009-10-23)

• All members of WikiProject Java are urged to install the Centralized Announcement System on their talk page. (2009-10-23)

WikiProject Java and Portal

I recently posted the following text on Wikipedia regarding the creation of a new computing-related project in Wikipedia:

'WikiProject Java is a Wikipedian community that aims to better organize information in articles related to the Java programming language and its platform.

• If I'm cor-rec-to, there are about 900 articles on Java technology in Wikipedia, which may be more than ALL other programming languages articles combined...
• At least, it's more than for C++, and there IS a C++ WikiProject...
• And it's MUCH more than the .NET WikiProject with 82 articles...
• There is also a Python project and a Ruby project so...
• Now you can also see a proposal for the Java Portal (temp location).'

Please support this initiative, ^AlainR345_{TechnoWikiGeek} 08:34, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Andrew, and thanks for your involvment in this project. I see you edited Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/List_of_articles and that's certainly welcomed. But I would suspect you could be qualified to do more interesting edits. If you take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Things_you_can_do, you've got a good idea of where we are right now, as a fairly new project: for instance, Intelligentsium has polished the Portal:Java I created last year, and VK is addressing the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/List_of_articles_uncategorized issue; I'm currently trying to fix problems reported in the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing.

If you've got Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser privileges, the Java BIGTOP tagging operation would be ideal for you. If not, I would suggest you begin with Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/New_articles: there are 2 things to do: a) evaluate the suggestions given by AlexNewArtBot as for new Java articles; for instance I would say Aspire and ESP are no good (as far as Java is concerned) and the others could be; and b) therefore you plunge into SchemaCrawler, ZooKeeper, maybe Ehcp plus the Currents (MSA, Roo, TopBT) and try to fix them to some sort of Wikipedia 'norm' (that is, check their Category:, correct mistakes, add sufficient 'meat', divide into sections, research references, etc. and last but not least put the {{Portal|Java|Wave.svg}} tag in the ==See also== section and the {{WikiProject_Java}} banner in their talk page). Either way, please put your (ADK,ongoing) initials in place of the relevant (PYNHAGFIP) in Things_you_can_do. Our aim is to fix all those little issues first and then we will be on a cruising course, doing what all other projects do these days I guess, which is to improve the quality rating of the project's articles (as reported here). Don't hesitate to ask any question below this text... --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 00:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'm going to look at both Existing Java-categorized articles and New Java-categorized articles and see what I can do, and I added my initials to the list. I think I could also be useful trying to fix some of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing problems as well. The articles in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/New_articles however are about subjects I don't really know anything about, so I'd rather leave them to someone else. Hope this is OK, and we should co-ordinate the cleanup list of articles so I don't start working on something someone else is working on, I guess? — M3TA(info) @ 21:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep, go for it! As far as cleanup is concerned, here's the deal:

• WolterBot is slow to update, so the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing page is not totally current;
• Before addressing the Java BIGTOP, I will be working on these articles: JAX-RS, Mobile_Information_Device_Profile, Erich_Gamma, TTCC, JavaServer_Pages, List_of_Java_keywords, Java_Transaction_API, Java_Metadata_Interface, Restlet, Java:_View_Technologies_and_Frameworks;
• Also I did most of the sections below, the rest is fair game:
  Articles containing how-to sections
  Articles needing sections
  Articles that include images for deletion
  Articles to be merged
  Articles with dead external links
  Articles with disputed statements
  Articles with minor POV problems
  Articles with obsolete information
  Articles with specifically-marked weasel-worded phrases
  Pages with incomplete DOI references
  Wikipedia articles needing clarification.
  Bye now, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

OK I'll leave you the List_of_Java_keywords since I see you began work on it today. But please go all the way so as to be able to remove the two warning tags. Thanks, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 03:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi again Andrew. I see you did some valuable work related to the Java Cleanup Listing issues; I therefore took the liberty of moving your initials on the to_do page from the New articles task. Now if WolterBot can raise from the dead..., we should soon see some fruit from what we do. Keep up the good work! --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 21:22, 27

Not sure where to ask about this, but if you look at how I've changed MIDlet you'll see I got rid of the huge chunk of Java code. I think, for instance Xlet ought to get the same treatment, we shouldn't just have code in an article, that belongs in a book or howto. At the moment I'm getting on with the cleanup of articles that require citations and references, but it's slow going. Also, s there a general discussion page for this project? — M3TA(info) @ 07:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

As far as code is concerned, I agree with you... up to a point. Looking at that Xlet article, I think the interface list would be 'bookish' (I'm not EN so pardon any crazy neologisms I could come up with...), while the example would be the one to keep. Is that your feeling? More generally speaking, you'll observe that there are Java articles with FAR more code than that and I think the difficulty in that eventual 'cleanup' would be to keep the worthwhile efforts of over-enthusiastic Wikipedians somewhere. Accessorily, there IS a Java Wikibook (however imperfect it is), the link of which is now at the end of the Java Portal. --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 19:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Obviously I missed Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Java — M3TA(info) @ 07:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's valuable to group project discussions, especially as we are a young project that still tries to define how to go about things. However I realize with your comment that something I did was not clear enough. Thus observe the new Java Cafe link. Keep up the good work! --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 19:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I see you're into JME. So contrary to what I sais previously, I will leave you the 'Mobile Information Device Profile' article. Bye now, --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 00:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Small note: I'm not entirely sure how this works, but I think, since it is said 'This is an automatically generated cleanup listing', that your edits on page Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Cleanup_listing are not so valuable; the next time WolterBot goes on, they could be wiped out... If you absolutely want to document your Cleanup edits, I would suggest maybe the 'Done things' section of page Things you can do. --AlainR345^{Techno-Wiki-Geek} 00:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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Wikipedia book

Honestly, if it's a new book that hasn't itself been reviewed by anyone, I would say it should be deleted until such time as it is recognized by independent sources. I don't think it's enough to say that "Criticism of Wikipedia seems like an important subject." Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 17:55, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

What constitutes 'sufficient' reviews, then? Would the author speaking at a relevant conference on the books subject not be relevant for notability? I'm not sure what harm it does to keep it there, now, since the article does now have references and link to reviews added, particularly given the caveat about academic book notability in the guidelines. — M3TAinfo @ 18:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

• Well, the conference hasn't happened yet and won't for almost 2 months. Further, that might indicate some notability for the author, but not necessarily for his book. And "it doesn't hurt anything" is not a good reason to avoid deletion -- I have to deal with that argument from dozens of high school kids. Obviously this is not the same kind of thing, but this is why we have to go by the guidelines regarding external sources. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:00, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Surely this is what a stub article is for, then? I have now tagged it as such, so why not leave it like that, and allow further refernces and citations to be added as and when they occur? This way, there is a place to add them, at least, right? I'm not trying to troll or anything here, I really want to contribute useful articles to Wikipedia, and this seems valid. — M3TA(info) @ 20:14, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

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Reviewing it

We'd love to have a review of this for the Signpost. I think Thespian isn't planning on doing this any more, so it's all yours. If you're definitely going to review it, I'll probably request a review copy for myself so that I can offer useful feedback once you have a draft ready. Let me know.--ragesoss (talk) 15:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

1. What, when and where is that March academic conference on Wikipedia where the author will speak? 2. Could you e-mail me (use the "E-mail this user" link on my talk page) about a review copy? Book reviews are one of the things I do on the side. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

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Done — M3TA(info) @ 20:54, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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noticed the RfD on the O'Sullivan book

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Speedy deletion of minor planets articles

You need to notify the articles creator when nominating an article for deletion. I don't really understand your reasoning in the first place. Also, the user that created them has over 320,500 edits and, thus, presumably knows what they are doing. -- John Reaves 04:28, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I was trying to fix an issue with old pages still showing up in the category index for minor planet names. The lists of names are all in blocks of 500 for minor planets numbered under 10,000, so the pages for e.g. 5001-6000 that simply include the two pages for 5001-5500 and 5501-6000 are redundant and can be deleted. Additionally, for some reason the 3001-3500 block is split into groups of 100, which I had copied to the 3001-3500 page instead of the include directives, and then deleted the content from the 3001-3100 etc.pages to prevent duplication and confusion. I have notified User talk:Kwamikagami about this. — M3TAinfo (view) 04:54, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

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Sweets, I'm in the middle of a day of editing the Vita article. Could you wait for tweaks until I've had done? It gets very confusing if two editors are working at the same time. I do appreciate your work but have read through for errors in my new work yet. Best wishes Anna (talk) 21:15, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks so much. I'm just a regular pleb with no great tech skill and dodgy eyesight. Your work and skill on the page is very much appreciated. I've finished for the week (at least) as my eyes have given up. Anna (talk) 14:27, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

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