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A case of mistaken identity
[edit]Another misnomer I have recently encountered, one very relevant to gelato is this: in certain parts of the USA, most notably on the East Coast (particularly in New Jersey), the word 'gelati' is being used to describe a parfait (layered dessert) containing alternating layers Italian water ice and soft-serve, ice cream or custard. Strictly speaking, 'gelati' is the plural of 'gelato' and the aforementioned dessert bears no resemblance to true gelato.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gelatomaster (talk • contribs) 02:07, December 15, 2005
Water Ice? What's That?
Noteworthy, is the fact that "Italian Ice", or "Water Ice", as the East Coast of the US knows, does not exist anywhere in Italy or Europe. Granita, a frozen mix of fruit puree, sugar and water, would be the closest thing to what Americans call "Italian Ice". Maybe someone would consider moving the quoted "misnomer" above to the Gelato article, as a note. It is confusing to many east-coasters who are experiencing Authentic Gelato for the first time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.84 (talk • contribs) 17:54, February 9, 2006
Very problematic article
[edit]This article seems to be intended to describe the artisanal (or artisanal-style) ice cream found in Italian gelaterie and its imitations in North America.
Unfortunately, the term is more or less meaningless. In Italy, gelato just means ice cream, of any kind and of any fat content. In the United States, it has no legal definition. It is sometimes claimed that gelato in the United States contains only milk and not cream, but this is false. The market leader in gelato, Talenti, uses cream as well as milk and their Vanilla Gelato contains about 10% fat total,[1] about the same as Breyer's Vanilla Ice Cream.[2]
Using the name gelato in the US does circumvent the legal requirement that ice cream contain at least 10% fat, but there is no requirement at all that gelato not contain 10% fat. --Macrakis (talk) 17:46, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- This article is a typical example of US/UK "linguistic appropriation"; the import of a word or phrase from another language and the subsequent attempts to force the new meaning of the word on the language from where it originally came. As such, the article will always be silly. 46.135.81.126 (talk) 07:08, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
- @Macrakis: "In Italy, gelato just means ice cream", you're wrong. When we go on holiday, or for work, outside Italy we use the term 'gelato' to indicate the ice cream (e.g., the English ice cream), but in Italy with the word 'gelato' we refer to our gelato, since ice cream (e.g., the English one) isn't sold in the Bel Paese; in addition, if we want to buy a, for example, "Magnum", we say gelato confezionato (lit. 'packaged ice cream'. Not Italian gelato confezionato, with the exception of some brands; "Magnum" is Danish, etc.); in this case "gelato" is used to mean 'ice cream'. I know, It's not easy. JacktheBrown (talk) 07:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Unobjective article
[edit]This article is blatantly factious and Florence-centered. Gelato's origin is still a mystery, there are multiple Italian people accredited to have invented it and many Italian cities claiming its origin, but we only have myths and theories. Moreover, the references about the alleged origin of gelato in Florence are all from Florentine sources, which makes this article far from objective. --Anonymous (talk) 11:11, 8 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.147.242.175 (talk)
Language
[edit]I would like to know who decides whether an article should be written in American English or British English, are there specific reasons or is it random? Nothing against American English, it has a really good sound and is a pleasure to listen to, but this article would be better if it were written in British English; my opinion. In any case, is there a specific reason why this article should be in American English? JacktheBrown (talk) 22:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
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