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Map of Palestine and the Old City of Jerusalem[edit]

I made the map of "the holy sites of Jesus Christ in Palestine and the places living Palestinian Christians" and "the Old City and surroundings of Jerusalem", but I don't have edit permission.

[[File:Holy sites of Jesus in Palestine.svg|thumb|The holy sites of [[Jesus]] Christ and the places living Palestinian Christians.]]
[[File:Map of the Old City and surroundings of Jerusalem.svg|thumb|The [[Old City (Jerusalem)|Old City]] and surroundings of [[Jerusalem]].]]

If anyone has edit permission, I would appreciate it if you could post this map on this page.--Obendorf (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fix wrong links[edit]

In the article it says "Christians are called Nasrani (the Arabic word Nazarene) or Masihi (a derivative of Arabic word Masih, meaning "Messiah")." First, Nazarene is not the Arabic word as the article seems to claim. Second, it should be linked to Nazarene (sect). If someone can volunteer to check the offline source for clarification on this. For a better spelling of Nasrani I suggest it should be "Naṣrani" with a dot below the "s". 197.60.30.66 (talk) 21:09, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Opening[edit]

The first line defines Palestinian Christians as Christian citizens of the State of Palestine, but I would have thought they were, and the article elsewhere seems to treat them as, Palestinians who are Christians. The lead sentence is certainly recentist, but I don't know enough about citizenship of the State of Palestine to touch it. Srnec (talk) 13:53, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arab Orthodox Movement[edit]

The Arab Orthodox Movement is a newly created article that probably deserves a dedicated subsection here. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:10, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

error in Notable Palestinians/journalists[edit]

The line for Issa Al-Issa, founder of Filastin newspaper, cites its founding as in "Jaffa, Palestine" in 1909. In 1909 Jaffa was part of the Ottoman Empire, and it was part of the Sanjak of Jerusalem, also called the Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem. There was no "Palestine" region, administratively or legally, at that time. This is analogous to citing "Charleston, Appalachia" rather than "Charleston, West Virginia" or "Charleston, WV, USA". It should be edited to reflect this: "Jaffa, Ottoman Empire", or "Jaffa, Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem" to be accurate. 77.69.132.122 (talk) 15:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine was not the name of a formal political division, but it was the informal name of the region. In English writing of the time, it is hard to find anything else. Zero^talk 00:33, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Errors in article[edit]

considering the IDF being more lenient with the Christians, I would say it isn't true. My village fully Christian and in the Galilee was massacred and expelled. Massacre of Ilabun 185.53.41.59 (talk) 00:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The percentage and population[edit]

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change the percentage (6%) to (25%-30%) because it’s completely inaccurate and biased for us Palestinian Christians to be only “6%” 6% is only 800,000 of the Palestinian population but Chile alone has around 500,000 Palestinian Christians, and most countries in South America has at least 100,000 Palestinian Christians also I’m not sure how to type my source in because I’m new to Wikipedia Jajajasss (talk) 12:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Jajajasss: If you can provide a link to the source website or the name of the print source, we can format it for you. Please make sure that the source meets the guidelines at WP:RS. Liu1126 (talk) 12:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright but before that, may I please see your source for Palestinians being 6% (with all respect) ❤️ Jajajasss (talk) 13:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See reference 2. The archived link is here. Liu1126 (talk) 14:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

but it’s inaccurate, we need to use logic in this case it literally says they’re roughly 400k but chile alone has over 500,000 Palestinian Christians and the Palestinian Christians are over 4 million world wide in which the majority of them are residing in southern America and other Latin countries. Palestinian Christians have been immigrating there since the times of the Ottoman Empire until now. day by day many of us immigrate due to the conditions of the conflict between us and israel. Cities in the north and coast of israel had a Christian Palestinian majority in which they were driven out, murdered and expelled to lebanon mostly, during the Cammile Chamoun era he gave Lebanese citizenships to almost every Palestinian Christian refugee. 2001:8F8:1335:2372:19F4:EFFE:F8CB:6D67 (talk) 21:44, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, logic like that probably constitutes original research, and even if we accept this logic, then we can at most conclude that the actual percentage might not be 6% without actually proving your claim of 25%-30%. What we need is a direct statement from a reliable source along the lines of "25%-30% of Palestinians are Christians", or at least a set of values from which we can calculate the percentage using simple division (per WP:CALC). You also need to provide a source for the claim that Chile has over 500,000 Palestinian Christians. Liu1126 (talk) 22:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright yes I have sources, first source: https://sites.google.com/view/palestinian-christians/home

second source: https://ar.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/الدين_في_فلسطين

translate the second source if you’re not a arabic speaker. Jajajasss (talk) 10:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first source is a personal website without an identifiable publisher, which falls under WP:UGC and hence is considered generally unacceptable. The second source is another Wikipedia article, which again falls under WP:UGC. Besides, the article uses the same source mentioned above to support the statement "...constitutes 6%-30% of Palestinians worldwide", even though the source only mentions"...roughly 6.5% of all Palestinians". Liu1126 (talk) 11:57, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Said should be added to the list of notable Palestinian Christians[edit]

(1935-2003) Edward Wadie Said was a Palestinian American academic of Christian Palestinian descent. He was a founder of post-colonial studies and a professor of literature at Columbia University. Born in Jerusalem, Said’s memoir ‘Out of Place’ reveals how his early life influenced his books ‘Orientalism’ and ‘Culture and Imperialism’. 7atar (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]