Talk:Anne Hyde

Wrong title

I feel sure this is the wrong title for this article. Anne Hyde married the Duke of York in 1659. Her father did not become an Earl until 1661. So when was she called "Lady"?

I propose to move this article back to "Anne Hyde" unless someone can tell me different. Deb 18:37, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, it seems that the title is indeed wrong, and that my move was incorrect. I think that "Anne Hyde, Duchess of York" would be the appropriate title. -- Emsworth 21:43, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Don't take offence, but I've moved it back here so that any redirects can start from the appropriate place. Personally, I favour leaving it at "Anne Hyde", because that's how she's normally referred to in history books, but if you feel it conflicts with the guidelines on titles, I don't object to the Duchess of York thing. Deb 18:59, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

After Anne Hyde, no other Englishwoman would marry an heir presumptive or heir apparent to the British throne until the marriage of Lady Diana Spencer to Charles, Prince of Wales? I dispute this. Queen Mary (Mary of Teck), although her titles were German, she was in fact British having been born in Kensignton Palace and brought up in England. I would like to point out that Anne Hyde was the last commoner to legally marry an heir presumptive or heir apparent to the throne until the marriage of King George VI and Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons).

It still says no other English woman would marry... until Lady Diana Spencer to Charles, Prince of Wales. I would tend to agree with the statement about the next 'commoner' after Anne Hyde to legally marry an heir presumptive or heir apparent to the throne was Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon's marriage to the Prince. Technically you could argue this both ways I suppose as George VI was not supposed to be King and he did not become heir to the throne until his brother succeeded in 1936 after he had already married. Correct me if I'm wrong but with Mary of Teck, usually women inherited their father's titles, ie, the children of Victoria, the Princess' children were not formally titled Princess of the United Kingdom, the children of the Prince's kept this title. Thus Mary of Teck may have been a descendant of George III, but she took on her father's name. She was born Her Serene Highness Princess Mary of Teck -- therefore she was not a commoner, she was a Princess was she not? -- Lady Meg (talk) 04:39, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

New file File:James II and Anne Hyde by Sir Peter Lely.jpg

Recently the file File:James II and Anne Hyde by Sir Peter Lely.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 20:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Date of death - which calendar?

For her birth date, we give both OS and NS dates, to make it absolutely clear when she was born. But for her death date, all we say is "31 March 1671". Would it be reasonable to presume this was an OS date, and that the corresponding NS date would be 10 April 1671? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 22:57, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, you are absolutely correct to presume that and the article has since been changed to show this. If the lead gives her NS birthdate we must follow suit and give her NS death date which was indeed 10 April 1671. I have added her 15 April burial date too (5 April OS). Thanks for pointing out the discrepancy, Jack.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Exellent. Thanks, Jeanne. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 11:01, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome, Jack; but you really deserve the thanks for pointing out the error. It did look odd to give the 22 March 1638 rectified date for her birth in the lead but keep the Old Style 31 March death date. --Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 11:47, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

DoB

The date of birth is rather odd under the heading "Early Years". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.254.83 (talk) 09:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

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Only son to survive to adulthood?

"...who bore James Francis Edward, James's only son to survive to adulthood". Should this read "legitimate son"? We are told that he had many illegitimate children, so it seems likely that some of those became sons surviving to adulthood. Jmchutchinson (talk) 21:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)