Talk:List of National Trust properties in England

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I removed Chatsworth from 'Derbyshire' because it is a private house owened by the Duke and Duchess of Devonshire and has nothing to do with the National Trust. User:Renata

countryside not buildings[edit]

The list has all the 'building' type NT property, but not (mostly) the countryside, spaces, hills, commons etc. Can we list these as well? Could we have a 'key' (House/garden/museum,countryside)? Or somewhere else? Examples would be White cliffs of Dover, Royal Military Canal all of which the NT at least partially own. Stonehenge Historic Landscape is listed. Ben 20:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A list of this sort (divided by counties) wuld be useful I've recently done an article on Crook Peak to Shute Shelve Hill SSSI part of which is controlled by the NT but it's not a building or any sort & I was wondering where to put this? — Rod ^talk 16:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps another list for NT holdings other than properties is needed. --Grstain 17:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We have some of the major land holdings listed under the regional areas and counties eg my favourite, the South Peak Estate and High Peak Estate are listed separately and under Derbyshire here - there should also be a listing for the Lake District holdings and the Project Neptune coastal ones... Linuxlad 17:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The NT used to distribute to members a book with a complete list of all NT holdings. If anyone still has one of these it would make an excellent source, since the NT seldom if ever relinquishes property. treesmill 20:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was trying to find mine just last week. I think the Trust has the right to declare its land 'inalienable' so it can't change hands or be nicked by an LA without Act of Parliament. Linuxlad

I have started just such a page which concentrates on the land (countryside and coast) owned by the NT, as i'm not that interested in all their properties. The members book concentrates on their properties and has only passing references to their land holdings, I guess this is to do with their business model, as they charge people to go into the properties but access to the land is, by and large, free. Their web site is the same, with plenty of info on their buildings but only scant information (which in my opinion is all over the place) on their land. Please feel free to help update List of National Trust land in England as its a big job! Debnigo 23:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Members Handbook is a very good source as is the list on the NT website, but both are also flawed to some extent. Both include free properties and those with an entry fee, but neither lists all of the former. Burrow Mump in Somerset for example, a hill with a ruined church on the summit has a car park and information board doesn’t feature at all, neither does the dovecote at Bruton. I also visited on charged for property (the Treasurer's House in Martock) where the volunteer on duty said they were glad we came as their visitor numbers were so low they were at risk of loosing their handbook entry. The hand book and the website list properties but don’t define what this means, and include houses, ruins, archaeological sites and landscapes. A lot of the NT’s landholdings are working farmland without public access. I think this page should be a list of places open to the public whether free or charged including open spaces. After checking the details I removed an entry for a golf club from this list, the trust might own the land but it is on a long lease to a private golf club with no public access. A separate NT countryside page should be for both areas of land you can visit and those owned or managed by the trust without public access. Shaun Sheep (talk) 13:45, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All or none or mix?[edit]

I have just reverted the change made for Somerset, but feel we should check the policy.

Should all of the properties be listed here?

Should the properties only be listed in the pages dedicated to each county?

My vote is for the existing hybrid - this page should be a plain list for each county, where possible linking to a county page with a more detailed table (like the Somerset page). We should be able to handle the duplication - the lists will not change much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GhostInTheMachine (talk • contribs) 09:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm especially surprised that you reverted the change given that you are a "professional assembly language programmer". I am a retired assembly language programmer.

You should have learned already that it's counterproductive to maintain the same "code" in more than one place. That's why macros were invented decades ago.

Now, however, you want to maintain the exact same list in more than one place.

I didn't complain about your reversion immediately for two reasons:

This "List of National Trust properties in England" article only has one "Main article" link--in the "Somerset" section. Therefore, I chalked up your reversion to "lack of experience" and hoped that, with a little passage of time and some thought, you would see the error of your reversion. Apparently, your adding this new section to the "Talk" page is a first step. :-)
If you didn't undo your reversion by my deadline for copy editing the "List of National Trust properties in Somerset" article, I intended to refer your reversion to the lead copy editor. :-)

[Note: If you want to make a useful contribution, please see the "Talk" page section "Copy Edit Request" in that article. :-)]

In the meantime, I wait patiently for you to replace "pride of authorship" with logic.

--LukasMatt (talk) 06:11, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]