MediaWiki talk:Blockedtext
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Proposal to remove the red hand and make the text smaller[edit]
The red hand is unnecessary to get attention, as is the giant text. They're especially inappropriate for IP blocks, where most users are seeing this because of collateral damage. I plan to remove the red hand and make the top line smaller text. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I disagree.
- That said, I agree that we probably could use additional text better explaining about "collateral damage".
- The text at Help:I have been blocked used to reside here. When it was removed, so went the explanatory text. - jc37 21:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jc37: Mind sharing why you disagree? Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:38, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think Xaosflux explained better than I could, below. There are reasons that images are used on motorways, for example. We use images (and colour, for that matter) to help illustrate and convey. See also Pictogram#Standardization.
- Besides, a hand that says "stop", is a neutral statement. I'm not seeing an issue here that needs addressing on that count. - jc37 04:08, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jc37: Mind sharing why you disagree? Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 19:38, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Especially for IP blocks, we can't assume the editor has English as a primary language, this iconography sends a good message of "you have been stopped". — xaosflux Talk 19:42, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Blockvars[edit]
Template:Blockvars has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 19:44, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Edit requests[edit]
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Requested move 25 April 2024[edit]
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved It looks to me like the old message names are no longer referenced by the code, but they're being slow at removing them for some reason. I tested on a local MediaWiki instance and the new message names were displayed. Also updated the parameters to match the new order. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC) * Pppery * it has begun... 22:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-ipblocked → MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-blockedtext-ip
- MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-ipblocked-range → MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-blockedtext-range
– After seeing some page names on Special:AllMessages, this is officially the new interface name. 167.205.22.105 (talk) 14:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like both may still be hooked, and they have different parameters? May need an adjustment and likely should be copied at least initially. — xaosflux Talk 14:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Edit request May 2024[edit]
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Another edit request. After the change I realized that the link to m:NOP is gone. Can you add it again? 167.205.22.106 (talk) 14:12, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- The prior version doesn't seem to point there, and it is not applicable to all global blocks. Can you point to where this was in place? Block reasons should still come across when applicable. — xaosflux Talk 15:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- The original messages was this:
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Your IP address has been blocked on all wikis. The block was made by $1. The reason given is $2.
Your current IP address is $3. Please include all above details in any queries you make. If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the No open proxies global policy.
Otherwise, to discuss the block please post a request for review on Meta-Wiki.
The block was made by $1. The reason given is $2.
Your current IP address is $3. The blocked range is $7. Please include all above details in any queries you make. If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the No open proxies global policy. Otherwise, to discuss the block please post a request for review on Meta-Wiki. You could also send an email to the stewards VRT queue at stewards@wikimedia.org including all above details. |
It had a link to m:NOP but the new one doesn't. Also had a few more detailed instructions about appealing a block. 167.205.22.106 (talk) 15:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- The original default message doesn't have that (see here). Can you link to a specific prior version you are referring to? — xaosflux Talk 15:26, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh it's this one. MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-blockedtext-mistake and MediaWiki:Wikimedia-globalblocking-blockedtext-mistake-email-steward. So it's basically a part of the message but the text is on a separate template. This is what I'm referring to. This is what the original text had. It's part of the message. 167.205.23.116 (talk) 16:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not done this isn't making any sense. Make a sandbox by first mirroring an existing message, then make the changes you are proposing. Then if you are saying this "was" somewhere, provide the permalink to the version you are referring to. Next, provide a test case for when your proposed change will be used. After all of that, reactivate the edit request. — xaosflux Talk 17:40, 13 May 2024 (UTC)