Talk:British Rail Class 307

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The table layout hasn't worked properly, and some of the information is out of date - all the PCVs are now out of traffic after EWS lost the mail contract. (Our Phellap 21:17, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC))

Fixed problem myself (Our Phellap 22:18, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC))

BRUTE[edit]

Can someone explain what the term "brute" means in this sentence found under the second form top picture in the article? "British Railways class 307 train in plain blue livery and a brute at London Liverpool Street station". I have looked the word up in various places yet can't find an appropriate definition.Oxyman42 18:33, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's an acronym for British Rail Universal Trolley Equipment, and should be written in capitals. I have edited to reflect this. Hassocks5489 (talk) 18:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CAB WINDOWS

The cab windows of an EPB and a class 307 are of indentical size,this being 30 inches by 21 inches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.136.255 (talk) 20:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AM7 CLASSIFICATION

This was not applied until the units were converted to AC operation, AM standing for "ALTERNATING CURRENT MULTIPLE UNIT". Upon introduction 1956 these EMU's were known as"THE SOUTHEND STOCK" a name which persisted until their withdrawal from the Southend Victoria services. —Preceding

THE LTS ROUTE

The class 307 were never used on the LTS route services as the train crews did not sign them. They had very different control equipment from the resident class 302 and 308 classes, these were fitted with EE CAMS TEP CONTROL, where as the class 307 was equipped with the standard Southern Region EE Air Electric Contactor control. I do not recall ever seeing a 307 on the LTS route, apart from a photo of loco hauled set which formed part of an exhibtion of rolling stock staged at Southend Central station. unsigned comment added b 92.12.243.85 (talk) 19:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LEA VALLEY ROUTE

Sometime after being converted to AC these units were used on the Lea Valley line, presumably to Hertford East and Bishops Stortford. There were a number of cases of them becoming 'dewired', the pantograph leaving the overhead lines. They were then barred from being used on this route.

After conversion, these units were referred to as Southend Converted Stock, not Southend Stock as previously stated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.179.254 (talk) 02:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The name "Southend Stock" or "Southend converted stock". It would depend entirely upon whom one was conversing with. I recall that at least two train crew supervisors at Southend Vic, always used the term "Southend Stock" until the retirement of the class from the GE lines; others would add the word "converted". However I would again point out that this class was never used regularly on the LTS section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.40.138 (talk) 15:22, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possible change to the title of this article[edit]

This article is currently named in accordance the Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Railways naming conventions for British rolling stock allocated a TOPS number. A proposal to change this convention and/or its scope is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways#Naming convention, where your comments would be welcome.

Merger proposal: British Rail Class 300[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Clear consensus for merging. Eilidhmax (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The current article on the proposed Class 300 conversions of the Class 307 is an unsourced stub which could easily be added as a section of this page. No examples of the Class 300 were ever built and not much information exists about the proposal to justify a separate article. Eilidhmax (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging in @Thryduulf and @Mattdaviesfsic for views after their involvement in the proposed deletion of the Class 300 article recently. Eilidhmax (talk) 15:04, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. XAM2175 ^(T) 15:27, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 16:23, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per my comments when deprodding. Thryduulf (talk) 18:17, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.