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RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph of Nazareth, Not moved, 5 January 2006, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 1 § Requested move
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph of Nazareth, No consensus, 8 November 2013, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 3 § Requested move 2013
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph (father of Jesus), No consensus, 3 December 2013, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 3 § Requested move 3
RM, Saint Joseph → Joseph, husband of Mary, Not moved, 27 December 2017, Talk:Saint Joseph/Archive 4 § Requested move 27 December 2017

Edits[edit]

I think it is wrong to call Joseph "a New Testament figure". Since all scholars agree that Jesus existed historically, he clearly had a father (independently of religious beliefs about the Virgin birth of Jesus) and scholars usually accept that his father was indeed named Joseph (Yosef was a common name in 1st century Galilee). So I suggest we edit this page in stating that he was "a 1st century man of Nazareth" similarly to the page of Mary, mother of Jesus.-Karma1998 (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relics of Saint Joseph[edit]

As said in the version comment: It is unclear what this is supposed to tell the reader. Furthermore, it is also illogical: if applies to Mary and St. John as well, Joseph cannot be "the only Saint". Furthermore, there is more than one kind of relic (see for second or third class relics). As I could see from at least one of your sources: the source only says, that there seem to be no bones etc, however, your wording is "not claimed by anyone..." Medusahead (talk) 09:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong lineage[edit]

@Medusahead: What you have commented out has been pointed by Jewish scholars who oppose Christianity. But Christian apologists found a way around that. tgeorgescu (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. However, in any case there should be a possibility to point out who said (claims?) that, as it begins "Christians point to Joseph's lineage…". --Medusahead (talk) 08:43, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legal father[edit]

@IP: Christian law and Islamic law did not exist yet. So, Joseph could not be not the father of Jesus according to their laws.

Joseph could not say "I choose to obey Islamic law", since there was no such law at that time. tgeorgescu (talk) 11:41, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]