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Former good article nomineeCamp Nou was a Sports and recreation good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Why does everyone call it "The Nou Camp"?[edit]

It is quite absurd, unnecessary and very widespread. First of all, where does the "The" come from? And secondly, why reverse the two words? It drives me absolutely crazy every time it's repeated on the radio and TV as "The Nou Camp"

It is actually called "Camp Nou"

It would be like calling Man U's stadium, "The Trafford Old" or Fulham's "The Cottage Craven"

It is precisely this reason WHY we call it the "nou camp" - because camp and nou both when spoken are understood by english speakers (Nou sounds and means the same as new), it sounds like an english name with the noun-adjective order the wrong way round. Therefore Camp Nou sounds awkward and it is more natural for us to anglify it to Nou Camp. If the name was more foreign sounding we wouldn't have this problem. --213.123.14.89 (talk) 11:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's totally ridiculous! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.75.2 (talk) 13:55, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with you on the Nou Camp mistake. The name of the stadium is Camp Nou. LaFuzion 20:56, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
The source is simple. British television commentators. Such figures as Andy Grey and Martin Tyler, who have otherwise gained my hatred for their incessant and useless contribution to the FIFA video games, are also the source for this error. It is hard for them to grasp the grammatical eccentricities of this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.33.110.103 (talk) 01:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reason people continue to call it the Nou Camp is because when it was being built, and before it had a name, it was commonly referred to as the "nou camp", which simply means the "new ground". This was of course when Barça was still playing at Les Corts, the "old ground". Once it was opened it was officially named Camp Nou, which has a more formal ring to it (although the meaning is the same), but the old informal name has stuck, and not only among British television commentators. Rabascius (talk) 07:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Actually, in Catalan, the adjective 'nou' can be used either before or after the noun, so both Camp Nou and Nou Camp were correct and used in Catalan, and this was not the official name of the stadium. People just called it the 'new ground' until it was officially maned Camp Nou a few years ago.

It's not a mistake in English (or in Spain). It was only officially renamed Camp Nou in 2000. Colloquially, it was called both Camp Nou and Nou Camp in Spain for decades, with the former being slightly more common. Therefore, I think it's hard to call it "incorrect." The same with the definite article. The stadium's name is preceded by the definite article "el" in both Catalan and Spanish. (And there are plenty of examples of English football stadiums with a definite article: the Dell, the Eremites, the Madjedski, the Brittania, etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.210.201 (talk) 16:23, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One of two is wrong![edit]

seats ok. But Capacity only 98|787. I would guess the capacity is rSomething has to be wrong here. 112|000 ight. Then the 112|000 seats must wrong?

Sten 13.11.06


How is Camp Nou pronounced? That'd be helpful for English speakers.

/'kam 'nɔw/

What is meant by "most atmospheric"?

What it says, I imagine -- that the Camp Nou is a particularly well known venue in terms of the emotional impact on/of the supporters. It's slightly POV to say this, I suppose, but undoubtedly accurate. --Ngb 19:23, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Meaning of the name[edit]

Camp Nou means, literally, in English, New Field, not New Stadium. Therefore, it is correct to call it Camp Nou Stadium, as it means New Field Stadium. -- Mankawabi 12:01 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd say 'ground' is a more accurate translation of 'camp'.

capacity[edit]

correct capacity: 98787, as wrote on the offical site of Barcelona F.C.

The capacity listed by the team's official website is 98,772, not 98,787 OR the above mentioned 112,000. The capacity was probably much higher prior to FIFA regulations concerning crowds (the Hillsborough Disaster probably being a major factor). Perhaps we should create a section about prior capacities? -- Isaiahcambron 17:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed this sentence from the first paragraph of the article:

It has the third largest capacity in the world, and the largest capacity in Europe.

According to the list linked to, the stadium is certainly not the third largest by capacity. It is not even third largest in capacity on the List of football (soccer) stadiums by capacity. The claim of largest in Europe seems accurate at least. This needs to be sorted out further, though. —Ed Cormany 22:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion in "Notable Games"[edit]

I deleted "*2007: FC Barcelona 6 - Atlético Madrid 0 (La Liga)" from the Notable Games section because this game was not played in the Camp Nou, but rather in the Estadio Vicente Calderon in Madrid. --Isaiahcambron 13:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah and whats so good about Barcelona v Rangers? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.103.87 (talk) 22:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barcelona is a city[edit]

Referring to the team by their home city is a bit sloppy. Can an author clean up the team references? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pmaclean (talk • contribs) 02:29, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"UEFA 5-star rated stadium"[edit]

The article claims the stadium is a 5-star rated stadium, with a link to the EUFA Elite stadium page, which contains no reference to 5-star ratings. I'm guessing that 5-star is an older rating, and that the new rating would be EUFA Elite. Could someone who knows this fix this sentence? Rks13 (talk) 23:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the nou camps capacity was reduced to around the current figure, dudesleeper reverted to 116,000 then referenced a link which doesn't confirm this. The capacity hasn't reduced since it was all seated. Check the 1999 champions league final for conformation. I'd appreciate it if Dudesleeper didn't revert it back to 116,000 even if s/he is certain that is the figure because it clearly isn't the number! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.204.234.248 (talk) 11:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heading[edit]

Does anyone else agree that the beginning of the article should be revised?
"The Camp Nou (Catalan for "new field"; Catalan pronunciation: [kam ˈnɔw]); often called Nou Camp in both Spanish and English) is a football stadium in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain."
I think it should read: "Camp Nou (Catalan for "New Field"; Catalan pronunciation: [kam ˈnɔw]); often erroneously called Nou Camp in English) is a football stadium in Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain.
I've personally never heard anyone in Spanish use the Nou Camp pronunciation in both media and person, plus I think it's somewhat misleading. Also it should be pointed out that it's an error to use that pronunciation. LaFuzion (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of paragraph from "Future" section[edit]

I have removed the following paragraph from the "Future" section of the article:

The current board Joan Laporta convened an international competition to perform a new redevelopment will achieve larger capacity of 15,000 seats of the field, reaching 113,000 seats. The works consist of raising the grandstand area to level it to the rest of the stadium. In turn, investments will also achieve a more secure and comfortable Camp Nou. After a jury's City CouncilThe Colegio de Arquitectos own club and chose 10 finalists from 79 projects submitted, the day September 18, 2007 was to inform the public that the winner was the project team of the British architect Norman Foster.

The above paragraph, along with several other unintelligible paragraphs from the History section, was added by Jim856796 on April 4, 2010. It appears that he took the Catalan article, ran it through some web translator (probably Google), and then copy-pasted the results. Considering that his talk page shows that he is a person who can type comprehensibly, his incomprehensible changes to this article suggest as much. While these efforts are appreciated, there's a good reason we don't just Google Translate the entirety of en.wikipedia.org and port to other languages. While I believe that there is valuable information to be found in this paragraph, there doesn't seem to be much that isn't already stated, and there are some ambiguous parts that I wouldn't guess at "fixing" myself, not being an expert at Catalan and all.

The History section is also poorly translated, but its general meaning is understandable and can be fixed by an enterprising editor.

It's rather unfortunate that such a thing has happened, considering that in my efforts to locate the source of the translation, Google showed me dozens of websites that have quoted (word for word) the above terribly-translated paragraph. It's really amazing these days how much wikipedia content is copy and pasted throughout the web. -Jaardon (talk) 00:30, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Camp Nou[edit]

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  • From List of FC Barcelona managers: "Roma Forns". FC Barcelona. Retrieved 29 July 2010.
  • From FC Barcelona: "Brief history of Camp Nou". FC Barcelona. Retrieved 30 July 2010.

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Can Future Section[edit]

Hi, I read over the article and can't see any reason that the entire section called future can't be shrunk down into about three sentences and moved somewhere else. If anyone more involved wants to tackle this, I'd be happy to move aside, but something needs to be done. Sven Manguard Talk 22:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Indianapolis[edit]

"The intention was to make it the fourth-largest stadium in the world (in terms of seating capacity), after the Indianapolis Motor Speedway[...]"

Imho the Indianapolis Speedway is not a Stadium. There are actually many racetracks that have a capacity of more than the 120,000 of the Salt Lake Stadium. --MrBurns (talk) 13:18, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Name from cruyff's surname[edit]

After Johan Cruyff's death, some people suggest to called this stadion for Johan Cruyff. Dawid2009 (talk) 19:06, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2016[edit]

Current: "The stadium also houses the second-most visited museum in Catalonia, FC Barcelona Museum, which receives more than 1.2 million visitors per year." Suggested: "The stadium also houses the most visited museum in Catalonia, FC Barcelona Museum, which receives more than 1.7 million visitors per year." [1]

194.209.3.10 (talk) 11:01, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: The source cited seems to confirm 1.7 million visitors, but stating the museum is the most visited is not stated. WP:OR seems to include this as original research: "This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources."  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  17:28, 7 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Location[edit]

Can the location be altered to an appropriate degree of accuracy? At the moment it implies the stadium is about 5 inches square. I suggest amending to the nearest 1000th of a degree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.9.7.102 (talk) 17:49, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 16 March 2022[edit]

Camp Nou to Spotify Camp Nou Mohdh34m (talk) 14:04, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 💜  melecie  talk - 14:12, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If I can chime in here, I believe Mohdh34m wants to change Camp Nou to Spotify Camp Nou in the article. The stadium has not been renamed yet though. elijahpepe@wikipedia 14:35, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The stadium has not really been renamed, as most sources still call it simply Camp Nou. It has been rebranded as Spotify Camp Nou, but since it's a temporary sponsorship deal (4 years), I see no need to rename the article. There is already a paragraph in the body reporting the sponsorship deal and the rebranding, and that seems sufficient. Fred Zepelin (talk) 12:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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