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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Sold 60+ millons copies[edit]

Add Skyrim to the list, the game has sold more tan 60 million copies and it not appear. please add it. thanks Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim. reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_V:_Skyrim#cite_note-146

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/skyrim-is-now-within-the-top-10-best-selling-games-of-all-time/1100-6515101/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1391058/skyrim-games-sales-worldwide/#:~:text=TES%3A%20Skyrim%20cumulative%20units%20sold%20worldwide%202011-2023&text=As%20of%20June%202023%2C%20Skyrim,excluding%20mobile%2C%20since%20its%20release. Statista have the sales of many games that appear in this page of wikipedia Farenghar (talk) 20:11, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statista is unreliable and often uses Wikipedia itself for figures. Skyrim has been requested and discussed repeatedly, over and over. We don't include it because there's been no official statement, just a single offhanded comment by Todd Howard, in the middle of a two hour interview about a completely different game. -- ferret (talk) 20:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And this is only the reason for exclude it for the page?, i remember skyrim always figure in this page and only for the comment of Todd this not appear anymore. Skyrim is top 10 games most soled and it not appear for no reason. please add it again. thanks Farenghar (talk) 21:52, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the lack of a reliable official statement from Bethesda is a reason to exclude it. Todd is an unreliable narrator who himself tells people to take his claims with a grain of salt. -- ferret (talk) 22:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When has Todd said to take his claims with a grain of salt? I think we need to see that quote before we start discounting his words entirely. Even if he said this, IGN, who did the interview, has taken the 60 million number as fact, so it makes no sense for Wikipedia to then decide it's untrue. Shivj80 (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ferret if you don't have a response to my previous points, then I would like to put Skyrim back onto the list. Shivj80 (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. I simply tire of saying the same thing over and over for people who won't read the past discussions. I wasn't even the person who originally brought that up. -- ferret (talk) 23:34, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can we overrule the previous discussion? I've read through it before and the exclusion of Skyrim largely rests on the dubious claim that Todd Howard would lie about the sales of his own game. Just because he's made exaggerated claims before, doesn't mean it makes sense to discount his word on a totally separate topic. CD Projekt Red has lied way more than Todd yet the Witcher 3 is currently on this article. Shivj80 (talk) 02:25, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ferret Following up on this, do we have to start a new discussion to get Skyrim back on here? Shivj80 (talk) 00:36, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What is there to discuss? Nothing new has been presented. The information still only comes from a single throw away comment in a hour+ long interview about a different game. No further confirmation from Bethesda or Microsoft. -- ferret (talk) 01:13, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, many of the games on this list and the most sold franchises list are based off of „a single throw away comment“. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The same can be said of the 195 M of GTA V, so you should remove it from the list as well.
Most of those numbers are estimate anyway, so your argument doesn't justify ignoring one in particular. Like in history, truth is something difficult to corner, but it's more informative to give a value, tell where it's coming from and allowing the reader to decide, rather than making people believe Skyrim isn't on that list at all just because the sales might be a little off from the claimed 60 M.
It only makes Wikipedia look even more untrustworthy. 2A02:A03F:C0B9:7C00:10AE:9445:12B2:ED54 (talk) 08:17, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GTA V's sales number came directly from Take-Two Interactive's earnings report, not an interview. Prefall 08:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you really think, that you are telling Bethesda something and being cool by not putting the game on the list, even though it was on it when it had 30 million copies sold (Source: Todd again), which is hyprocritical. Also, the official Skyrim Wikipedia page itself includes the number of games sold and by that, it makes it very obvious that you hold a personal grudge against Bethesda and/or Howard. The majority opinion would agree that Skyrim should be on the list period. GesundemBrot (talk) 12:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I want to throw my hat in the ring and say Skyrim should be on here. There is zero reason for it to not be here when an executive from Bethesda shared the updated sales number in an official press interview. Charizard777 (talk) 05:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Todd Howard is a certified liar lol. He is known for lying and many fans criticized him especially for Starfield. Kazama16 (talk) 22:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lmao no Todd Howard never lies. He may exeggerate some features of his games, and some things get cut in development, but every demo for Skyrim, Fallout 4, 76 and Starfield show exactly what you get in the game. He is trustworthy. Swedishplayer97 (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm new here but I agree. If it is on the Skyrim page then it should be on this page as well. Swedishplayer97 (talk) 16:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You'll notice the Skyrim page states "according to" and "he claimed". Both are presented in a way as to be worthy of skepticism, as it is. Obviously, Skyrim does belong on this list, and I do believe Howard's number to be roughly accurate. But for the purposes of this article in particular, there's just no source that's substantial enough to allow it. If you look across this article, sourcing here is from official press-releases, and secondary sources reporting on official IRs. RammyRamRamRam (talk) 06:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where The Hell Is Roblox[edit]

Where is roblox 2403:4800:345A:B701:61B1:C2BA:1C68:13C8 (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Where is fortnite[edit]

fortnite needs to be added 2403:4800:345A:B701:61B1:C2BA:1C68:13C8 (talk) 07:24, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Monster Hunter: World sales update[edit]

Capcom updated its sales, currently at 25,325,000, which puts it ahead of Grand Theft Auto IV and Cyberpunk 2077.

Source (page 16): https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/explanation/2023/full/explanation_2023_full_01.pdf Lukitoo (talk) 13:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2024[edit]

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 60'000'000 copys sold until june 2023 Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1391058/skyrim-games-sales-worldwide/ 2A04:EE41:1:3002:89E2:74B0:B6D8:5BC0 (talk) 13:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Per the talk section above and the consensus in the archive. Statista is unreliable. All such claims go back to a single IGN interview about Starfield with Todd Howard. Bethesda has not given an official figure. -- ferret (talk) 13:24, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elden Ring 25 million sales announcement[edit]

source: https://x.com/ELDENRING/status/1800890964925366476 I don't know if we need additional sourcing beyond an official Bandai-Namco account for this, but I figured I'd at least toss it out here Also FromSoftware offiial account in japanese https://twitter.com/fromsoftware_pr/status/1800891340374642989 2601:81:C400:24E0:A9E6:23CF:6D3D:4C8A (talk) 14:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2024 (2)[edit]

Elden Ring reached 25 million sales as of June 12th 2024 2A00:23C8:1F06:8A01:DC06:1E1C:4B7D:3E4A (talk) 15:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://x.com/ELDENRING/status/1800890964925366476 Official ELDEN RING Twitter/X account DrettTheBaron (talk) 16:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why was Horizon Zero Dawn removed from the list?[edit]

It was on here recently, and it should still be as it has more sales than several games near the bottom of the list. It's pretty significant being the only Sony 1st party title on the list, so if it gets knocked off it should be for legitimate reasons. The source for its sales figure comes directly from Sony: https://blog.playstation.com/2023/05/09/20-years-of-guerrilla-the-story-of-a-playstation-studio/ Nich Hustler (talk) 11:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Nich Hustler The source gives a franchise total (There were are the time 4 games in the franchise, including two spin offs) and specific figures for Forbidden West. No figure for Zero Dawn is given. -- ferret (talk) 13:33, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 14 June 2024[edit]

Tetris has reported 425 million paid downloads as of their interview with venture beat. Requesting a change of the reported downloads from 100 million to 425 million. Source https://venturebeat.com/games/mr-tetris-explains-why-the-puzzle-game-is-still-popular-after-three-decades-interview/ 64.178.145.226 (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Not a new source. This source has been repeatedly discussed and is not considered a reliable figure. -- ferret (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would you be willing to provide a quick summary on why? I'm not trying to argue against this decision, I am genuinely curious as to the reasons against. 64.178.145.226 (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Henk Rogers is considered unreliable for several past statements and claims that were not backed by anyone else, and was not in a position to really speak for every company. Some of his statements have directly contradicted statements from the actual developers. This claim has never been made outside of this interview, or confirmed by any company in an otherwise official statement. Rogers claims 425 million... EA themselves, the actual developer/publisher, only claims 100. -- ferret (talk) 21:06, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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