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View[edit]

There appears to be a typesetting problem in the Physical Characteristics section, viewing from a mac with firefox.

Naming[edit]

Great article! Only problem is the name. Google say; there are 31,500 webpages] on the internet with the word "Tiber" that do not have the word "river" in them. Changing over the name of the entry to Tiber river. --User:maveric149

Isn't that as much a reason not to rename the page? Often the word Tiber is used without river, but still the river is meant. Your version gives some other meanings of the word, but none of these would warrant a link to Tiber - they both would link to some longer term including Tiber. Don't disambiguate something that is not amiguous! Also notice that there are (not counting this page), 2 pages linking to Tiber river, but 9 to TiberAndre Engels

If “T(h)ib-” is Sicel it has nothing to do with “Dover”, which is Celtic *dubreyes “waters” Latinized as Dubrīs. And if a root *dubri- is to be cited at all, some explanation is needed how you get from D- to T-, which is not a normal Latin sound-change. What is said about the etymology is unsatisfactorily incoherent altogether. 81.159.141.91 (talk) 02:33, 17 October 2015 (UTC) Peter Kitson[reply]

Disputed[edit]

It's not quite clear if the Tiber is the 2nd or 3rd longest river in Italy and canada. Britanica says second longest at [1] which I'm inclined to trust, but several other sources, incliding the ESA at [2] are indicating that it is the third longest river in Italy and canada . Does anyone have any more information on this? Zachlipton 05:39, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Since the "other" candidate for second longest river is not even mentioned, and since no 'dispute' is entered on this page, it seems premature to slap a "disputed" label on this article. The "disputed" label has been so misused at Wikipedia that many fastidious editors won't touch it. Wetman 06:00, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The river in question is the Adige River. I do not know about unknown or approximate river lengths or alternate possible tributary routes. Edital 18:48, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Britannica says that the Adige is the second longest at 410km [3], while its page on the Tiber says that is the second longest at 405km. Thus it seems that Britannica's Tiber page is the one with the error (although the phrase "The country's second-longest river" allows them a get-out if the Adige starts in Switzerland or Austria). We should stick with 3rd, and not mark it disputed. --AndrewA 08:02, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've posited an explanation in the same paragraph and removed the template:disputed tag. Remove my explanation if you'd like, if it doesn't fit there. Perhaps put it here if you do so, for legacy. -- D. F. Schmidt (talk) 16:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

If the Britannica edition is older than 1919, the fall is clear. Before that time (end of WW I, Treaty of Trianon) the longest part of Adige lied in Austria. Tiber is definitively the third longest italian river. Every italian student older than eight knows it. ;-)

alex2006 12:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Command and Conquer[edit]

I can not believe you guys didn't get this! In the Command and Conquer RTS Storyline, A metorite filled with TIBERium crashed in to the Tiber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.162.243.3 (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your absolutely 100% right. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) ^(Shout!) 01:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Τιβέρης[edit]

What kind of ridiculous transliteration of the ancient greek Τιβερης is "tiveris"? That beta is a voiced bilabial plosive, not the voiced labiodental fricative of modern Greek. Further, who ever heard of i representing eta? And where the hell is the accent in this word? I can't find it in any of my ginormous dictionaries. If it ain't in L&S, friends, it might not be a word... --Ioscius ^(talk) 22:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Θούβηρις (and its cases) seems to be relatively common

θύβρεως (2)
θυβριάδες (1)
θυβριάς (2)
θύβριδι (6)
θύβριδος (12)
θύβριν (12)
θύβρις (5)

Τιβέρης seems to happen only once in the whole corpus. (TLG)

--Ioscius ^(talk) 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Modern History, Current Events, Data, Trivia[edit]

I'm not qualified to write it, but I'd love to see something more contemporary about the river, like any changes that have happened through recent centuries and decades, scientific data collected from the river, events that have happened on or along the river, etc. For example, I was in Rome two years ago and noticed they have cataloged the flora and fauna along the river in some sections. There are little plaques at various points that tell you about what is growing and provide other interesting data. I also noticed there was a lot of trash in the river at various points...so I wondered how safe is the water? Do people fish in it? Info like that would be helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.134.250.129 (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Water quality and expand[edit]

While the parts that exist now are very nice, I think the article could undergo significant expansion. Notably it could use data on water quality and stuff like that.

I think the article on the River Thames would be a good template to improve this one with. --Pstanton (talk) 01:34, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inscription on Mussolini's column[edit]

I'll be the first to admit that my knowledge of Italian history amounts to nil, but while using this page as a geographic study reference for European rivers I couldn't help but notice a less-than-subtle inconsistency between the article and the provided pictures. The inscription on the column is given as "QUI NASCE IL TEVERE SACRO AI DESTINI DI ROMA"; however, if one peruses the images of the column in question, one can easily see that it in fact reads "IL FIUME" (apparently 'the river') and not "IL TEVERE" ('The Tiber'). I have corrected it thus.

Fascist Memorabilia?[edit]

The multiple (somewhat suffering) images embedded along side "the source", where one may suffice, with the mussolini inspired remnants seems to be a rather overt tribute to il duce —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.109.114 (talk) 17:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed all of the images except the one I considered the best from this section of the article as you suggested. I did so because that many images for one section of the article did seem somewhat unbalanced relative to the rest of the article. As for the monument, I assure you I was not trying to 'pay homage' to Mussolini. I was just trying to show the monument for historical interest and to show the source of the river.-Schnurrbart (talk) 01:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rumon River[edit]

Tiber River = Rumon River (in Etruscan?) Böri (talk) 14:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rome: ...Another suggestion is that it is from Etruscan (cf. Rumon, former name of Tiber River). http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Rome&searchmode=none Böri (talk) 10:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation[edit]

This needs a disambiguation page Tiber (disambiguation). 65.93.15.213 (talk) 07:04, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done!-Schnurrbart (talk) 06:10, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Precisions[edit]

1 Rome was not founded on the banks of the Tiber, but around the Palatine Hill.

2. When Rome was founded it lay much closer to the sea: 25 km. is the present distance, not that at the time of its founding. Probably not more than 6 km. then.

3. Albula may well mean white, right, but the etymology is clearly Latin if the word is taken to mean white. Would the editor please take note.Aldrasto11 (talk) 13:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

map![edit]

My patience is exhausted. I tried to add a link to this map. It didn't work. Can someone do this? 174.53.163.119 (talk) 06:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. (It turned out that the Fasiculus: prefix was just the Latin for File:) Ian Spackman (talk) 11:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hiberian[edit]

What is Hiberian? In the etymology section. Is it Iberian or Hibernian?--Simen113 (talk) 17:29, 21 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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World War 2 shipwrecks[edit]

The reference for this refers to the Danube, not the Tiber: "Wreckage of a World War II German warship in the Danube in Prahovo, Serbia". Tagged {{Dubious}}--AntientNestor (talk) 16:45, 18 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the section in question because I felt that a heatwave revealing a bridge one time was utterly insignificant in the overall history of the storied river. -- Mebigrouxboy (talk) 03:26, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]