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Typo[edit]

corrected a slight typo error (unsigned comment by User:4.249.229.56)

Thanks, but you don't have to post that here. Just put it in the edit summary and it will show up on the page's history. Sonic Mew 10:51, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but The Itchy & Scratchy Show exists only within The Simpsons, doesn't it? In which case, shouldn't this be mentioned in the first paragraph? 203.118.120.161 18:41, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

How could've they missed that? --Thorri 18:20, 22 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Satire/Parody[edit]

Where does I&S 'parody pop culture' or 'satirize movies'? I've only ever seen it satirizing violet cartoons. Every so often they reference a movie such as Reservoir Dogs, but that it hardly satire of it. I've removed the mentions. Can anyone prove me wrong? Ashmoo 06:46, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Worker and Parasite"[edit]

This part of article contradicts with special article on Worker_and_Parasite. Here the series in question is told to satirize Soviet "government-made cartoons". In special article -- "Gene Deich period" of "Tom & Jerry". Pehaps this should be corrected. I belive that the special article is more correct: this would be more "in-line" with whole "Tom & Jerry" parody scheme.

Stingy and Battery show[edit]

Oh come on. That bit where Krusty has to improvise on that doesn't deserve that much of a mention. It was just a gag I belive for that episode so it should only be a mention in my opinion.19:45, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Severe Bipolar Disorder in this Article[edit]

This article suffers from repeated or duplicated mentions of events. "Background" and "History within The Simpsons" are merely retellings of the same sequence of events, a few details left out of each. Then "Other Itchy & Scratchy characters" starts to go thru things a third time. Can't some of these sections be merged? I'd try it myself, but figured I'd mention it here first.--Firsfron 11:25, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've reorganized it. We're not here to mention every single gag used on or about I&S (Elvis, Marge, "Stingy and Battery"), only those that are noteworthy to the history within the series or notable to the use of I&S within The Simpsons.--Nonpareility 15:42, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Poochie[edit]

Krusty's line "you'll never see Poochie again" was cut out of the syndicated reruns of The Simpsons. Revisionist history? Busjack 17:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't this be one of the possible inspirations for Poochie: Wally Bear and the NO! Gang. An "ultrahip" cartoon animal designed by adults to appeal to youth culture. Dexsuperior 01:40, 11 July 2007 (CET)

Timeline[edit]

I strongly reccomend retooling of the "in 1990" stuff. This is all misleading as the Simpsons dont' age and exist within a static timeline. Proper phrasing would be either "in an 1990 episode" or simply (to far better use of reference), "in the episode [title]". Agree or disagree? if no response, I'll assume noone cares and correct it myself. TheHYPO 05:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Translations[edit]

What's the point of the translations section?--Nonpareility 22:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Show within a show within a show[edit]

I don't think the term "show within a show within a show" is actually accurate. The article on show-within-a-show says "A show-within-a-show is typically a fictional television show featured within the fictional universe of a real television show.". I&S is not a show in the fictional universe of the Krusty the Klown show, rather it's simply a portion of the Krusty the Klown show.--Nonpareility 23:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics to the theme song[edit]

Does it start with "They fight! And bite! They fight and bite and fight!" or "They fight! And bite! They fight and fight and bite!"? I remember an episode where at the end of the show, they resing the theme song, softer and in past tense. I remember it being "They fought, and bit. They fought and fought and bit. Fought fought fought, bit bit bit... It was the Itchy and Scratchy Show!"--Nonpareility 23:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I also remenber that episode. I forgot the name through--Taida 17:43, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Past"[edit]

Now that "Origins" is split out, the "Past" section of this article seems to mostly be a list of different things I&S parodied in a "past" setting. I don't think these things are necessarily notable in The Simpsons's universe.--Nonpareility 21:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed many things from both the "Past" and "Present" sections. A lot of it wasn't really notable in the context of I&S - for example, what Bart thinks of Disgruntled Goat and who Grampa thinks voices Itchy.--Nonpareility 21:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In universe[edit]

What parts of this article need clean up because of in-universe style? Does a section named "History within The Simpsons" really need anything else to indicate that it's the history of I&S within The Simpsons rather than in real life?--Nonpareility 19:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Itchy and Scratchy Show.png[edit]

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GA Review[edit]

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Excellent work! I made a few minor changes, and there's just a few little quibbles before this can be passed:

Is it necessary to state the season and year of the episode in paretheses afterwards?
- I believe it is. The Simpsons has been on 20 years, and mentioning a bunch of episodes without explaining the year it aired can be confusing for non-fans. I feel that having the season and the year in the text helps clear things up. This is done in several other Simpsons character articles, eg. Homer Simpson.
What is the purpose of the The Itchy & Scratchy Show heading? The whole article is that...
- I felt it was important to sort the characters into two categories: Characters that are fictional within the Simpsons universe ("The Itchy & Scratchy Show") and characters that are "real" within the Simpsons universe ("Production staff"). That was the best title I could think of. Do you have any suggestions?
  - Unfortunately not. It'll have to do. Majorly talk 19:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This sentence: "but in reality both Itchy & Scratchy are voiced by men..." Should it not use "and" instead of the ampersand? Surely the ampersand is there for the purposes of the show, not when referring to the characters? This also occurs in the Merchandising section.
- Done.

Once you've sorted these, let me know, and I'll pass it. Thanks, Majorly talk 19:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 19:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, passed. Majorly talk 19:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicated text[edit]

I hid a portion of the text as clearly redundant and duplicative with a note to that effect. If anyone feels it is salient then please undo. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Text unhidden and above comments deleted as per edit summary, but other edits inadvertently rv restored. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 13:24, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Itchy & Scratchy Show and Happy Tree Friends Relation[edit]

... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.47.36.190 (talk) 15:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone can see that there is an relation, betwen the shows, they are almost the same kind, so why dont write in the article that they are both similar kinds of shows?

Many persons wanted to see an longer Itchy & Scratchy Show, so happy tree friends is almost this, an longer The Itchy & Scratchy Show... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.47.36.190 (talk) 15:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

I'm really not sure {{Infobox television}} is appropriate for what this article is about. At any rate, the infobox is far to in-universe as it is. Unless there's a way to change this, it's probably for the best if we remove the infobox altogether. Harry Blue5 (talk) 18:30, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you're saying, but I don't see the harm in it. Most articles about fictional TV shows do have one, and most infoboxes on fictional characters have an in-universe component. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 01:21, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, it's so incredibly in-universe. That kind of stuff is for places like Wikisimpsons, not Wikipedia. An infobox should contain things like "First appearance" (In this case, "There's No Disgrace Like Home"), "Last appearance", "Series" (The Simpsons), and some important bits on in-universe stuff. As it stands, if it wasn't for the small (fictional show) bit on the infobox, I'd think it was an actual show. Harry Blue5 (talk) 09:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

meyers dubbing poochie[edit]

roger meyers jr. providing the voice for poochie in his final episode (returning to my home planet...) means that alex rocco also voiced poochie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.67.244 (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Repetitious article[edit]

This article is very repetitious about the history of Itchy and Scratchy, and mentions Tom and Jerry 3 times. There are also several other repetitious ideas throughout the entire article. In my opinion, to improve the article, it should be cleaned up.

107.5.166.176 (talk) 06:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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