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Discussion for Today[edit]

This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_May_3


May 3[edit]

NEW NOMINATIONS[edit]

Film controversies in India[edit]

Nominator's rationale: See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: this one also has a subcategory which needs purging, so I have elected to nominate it separately to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Purge of all articles about films, leaving only the articles about controversies themselves. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Purge all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:28, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film controversies in South Africa[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is Films and Publications Act, 1996, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of Films and Publications Act, 1996 can take place at Talk:Films and Publications Act, 1996 HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Film controversies in Malaysia[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country: I don't see a future for this category in its current state. Most of the articles in this category are controversial films, not articles about film controversies. What stopped me from including it in the mass nomination is 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal, which seems does not seem to belong here, either. Even if we grant that it does belong here, after purging the articles about films this would be a single-member category. Delete this category; discussion of the categorization of 1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal can take place at Talk:1Malaysia Development Berhad scandal. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Subcategories of Category:Film controversies by country[edit]

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain, in which it was decided to nominate the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country. I would in theory say we should purge the categories of articles about films themselves – leaving only articles about controversies themselves. However, doing that would leave most of these categories empty. Therefore, I have nominated those categories for deletion, with no prejudice against recreating any of these categories if they can be appropriately populated. The ones which do contain articles about film controversies themselves (e.g. Category:Film controversies in Canada contains Natural Born Killers copycat crimes) I have nominated for purging. If, after purging, any category is too small to be useful we can have a discussion about upmerging that category.

I have not nominated Category:Film controversies by country for anything in particular, but I will tag it so it can be discussed here. I personally would advocate for that it be kept, even though most of its contents will no longer exist.

There are also three categories (Category:Film controversies in South Africa, Category:Film controversies in India, and Category:Film controversies in Malaysia) which have considerations specific to that category; I will start separate discussions on those to avoid a WP:TRAINWRECK. Also pinging participants in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 23#Category:Film controversies in Spain: Marcocapelle, Bearcat, Qwerfjkl, and Nederlandse Leeuw. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom and my own rationale in the previous discussion. To summarise: It should not be sufficient to only have a "controversy/controversies" section in an article about the film itself; although it may help establish notability, it is usually WP:NONDEFINING. Nor is it appropriate to label an entire film as "controversial" per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, and Category:Controversial films has been repeatedly deleted for that reason. And yet, almost the entire tree of Category:Film controversies by country is currently populated with main articles about the films themselves, rather than stand-alone spin-off articles about the controversies they caused. I think that is very inappropriate categorisation practice. I happened to come across it first with the Spain subcategory, but as this is not a Spain-only issue, at the request of fellow editors, I have withdrawn the nomination in favour of a broad discussion about the entire tree. I thank HouseBlaster for preparing this follow-up. NLeeuw (talk) 02:23, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support i.e. all articles about a particular film, but keep subcategories and articles about controversies, per nom. And delete the category if it becomes empty after the purge. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:42, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Spam filtering[edit]

Nominator's rationale: These seem to be the same topic - many pages are in both. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:51, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per nom. There could be a set category for spam filters but that can be created after this merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 02:44, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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