Talk:Tora Bora

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Edit: Got rid of some vandalism. I think a line about cave demons really doesn't belong here, especially with no citation or anything.

"It is also famous for two american soldiers dying from what the one survivor called "cave demons"." for reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.30.238.96 (talk) 03:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article right now is, I think, a really good example of how articles giving background information about current events can be credibly updated with very recent information. It reports information that will probably be perfectly valid, as well of some interest, five years from now. What it notably doesn't do is give the most recent, shaky details of what's going on there, based on uncertain sources. I think that's a good thing. I propose a rule...I guess I'll put this on "rules to consider": in writing a news background article, put down stuff only that, it is reasonable to think, will remain of interest and will probably be perfectly valid, five years from now. Something like that. --LMS

Love it, love it! Great concept, Larry. -- Ed Poor

A question: Is Tora Bora [the name of] a mountainous region in southern Afghanistan, as the entry states now, or is Tora Bora [the name of] a system of tunnels and chambers carved out of existing caves in the icy White Mountains southwest of Jalalabad, as Bowman (2001) writes? --css

I'm not completely sure -- the uncertainty is now reflected in the article.'

Tora Bora (Pashto: توره بوره, “black dust” ), DUST = DORA and not BORA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dictionaric (talk • contribs) 18:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What the hell is this crap? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.246.50.161 (talk) 16:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jack Duggan is clearly uninformed and somehow masquarades as an insider of sorts. Please see "Kill bin Laden" by Dalton Fury which, with source bibliographies and first hand, eye-witness accounts of the Battle of Tora Bora, certainly rules out any past, present or future "airlifts" of OBL. It does, at great length, describe the futility of pitting muslim fighters of any ethnic background against one another but Duggan is obviously writing from a position of personal "itch" and spewing conspiracy. This well-read reader is very unimpressed with Duggan and his anti-American policy hatred. Its actually laughable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.110.25.2 (talk) 18:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the copyvio of something Jack Duggan wrote posted here [1] Nil Einne (talk) 12:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tora Bora "cave complex"[edit]

yet another Documentary that wikipedia admins will pretend is not "noteable" enough http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26d6n_9-11-press-for-truth-4-5

Documentary has extensive information on the Tora Bora campaign, yet after almost 10 years there's just a paragraph here. Not even after Rumsfeld telling people how this was the largest site since the french Maginot line, and that there were "not one of these, there are ten's of these!" (Donald Rumsfeld's own words).

What was the source of the claims about a huge sophisticated complex? If it was US intelligence, or the Pentagon, or Rumsfeld alone, that should be cited.

Carpet bombing[edit]

...was used here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpet_bombing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.252.104.110 (talk) 17:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a geologist in the house?[edit]

At one point in the article we describe the caves as being in limestone, but a little later in the article we say the rock is gneiss and schist. Which is it? Limestone is obviously more plausible as a material for networks of natural caves, but it would be nice to have some authoritative guidance on this. 206.208.104.20 (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Page Ref edit[edit]

I edited the reference for the sentence Both the British and American press published detailed plans of the base. in the Military Base section. It was there with no name or type, source, etc. I only cleaned up the reference and did not measure the credibility of the already existing reference. P37307 (talk) 08:17, 13 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]