Talk:Charlottetown Accord
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NPOV, Clean-up
[edit]Added NPOV-- Campaign, Results and Aftermath sections need cleanup but I don't have the time right now. They read like an op-ed 69.157.106.211 09:38, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- To me, they all read as strictly factual accounts. They state no political opinion, but simply report the tenor of political opinion on both sides at the time; factual reporting of other people's POV is not the same as Wikipedia being POV. I'm especially mystified by your flagging of Results as a section that needs NPOVing, since that section contains nothing but the text of the question and the province-by-province voting results. If that's not NPOV, nothing in the world ever could be. Bearcat 01:30, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I must agree with Bearcat. Furthermore, it is my understanding that {{npov}} (and related template notices) should not be imposed on an article if the imposer does not present a valid, cogent case for a dispute. This requires more than saying "[such and such] need cleanup". I suggest removing the notice, unless and until 69.157.x returns and offers to detail his or her grievance. -- Hadal 07:24, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not sure; the references to Brian Mulroney look slightly PoV to me, especially in the Aftermath section (where it's simply stated that he made mistakes). It's not a major problem, I'd have thought (though if you put yourself in the shoes of a Mulroney supporter you might feel more aggrieved). Did he admit that he'd made mistakes, I wonder? If so, then that could be added to the text. I've Googled for this, but couldn't find anything.
I agree, though, that the Results section is about as NPoV as you can get. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 14:51, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- There's a reference to Trudeau cronies early on in the article - this is obviously POV. I don't know enough about the issue to rewrite it myself, but wanted to point it out here. --8.11.254.188 (talk) 22:06, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
"Roll of the dice"
[edit]As well, following the Accord's defeat, he was criticized for calling the process "a roll of the dice," which voters interpreted as meaning that he was gambling with the country's future.
I may be wrong, but I thought Mulroney said that about Meech Lake (referring to the chances of getting all the Premiers to agree) and not Charlottetown.Habsfannova 05:11, 26 December 2005 (UTC) 05:10, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- He did say it about Meech, not Charlottetown. What he meant was he was throwing it out in front of the craps pits to see where the bets had fallen - like a found of the boardgames Risk or Diplomacy, sort of. Not gambling exactly so much as fielding a plan; he could have used a better metaphor but he used an appropriate one; and of course Canadians don't like taking risks, other than cheap, blind ones like lottery tickets (or extreme skiing).Skookum1 04:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
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