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RfC: Taiwan, "country" or "state"

There has been continued discussion and failure to reach consensus on whether Taiwan should be called a "country" or "state" on the Taiwan article: Talk:Taiwan#Taiwan...is_a_country? I've opened an RfC to come to consensus. User:Stephen Balaban - 9:59, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merging of Spanish East Indies to Captaincy General of the Philippines

Hi, I'm letting this WikiProject know that there is currently a proposal to merge the Spanish East Indies article into the Captaincy General of the Philippines article at its talk page since at some point in the 1600s part of the island was occupied by Spanish forces based in the Philippines. Your participation in the discussion would be very appreciated. Thank you! Borgenland (talk) 13:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

"Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China"

Please join the discussion here: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_24#Category:Expressways_in_Taiwan_Province,_People's_Republic_of_China. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

These two articles may be of your interest

 Courtesy link: Xie Chunmu (謝南光),  Courtesy link: Draft:Wang Baiyuan (王白淵)

Dear WikiProject Taiwan,

I came across two articles written by a student, both zh-to-en translations. It may be of your interest to give feedback on their talk pages and to refine them. Both figures were from Taiwan. The translations are not outstanding at the moment, mostly because their original mandarin articles are not satisfying, so please feel free to be bold and make edits.

Xie (Hsieh) was a member of the Taiwanese People's Party who later went to PRC in 1952. Wang was a poet and literary who was arrested in the February 28 incident.

My sincere thanks to you all. Cheers, --The Lonely Pather (talk) 12:21, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Chinese-language-only video games (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Category:Chinese-language-only video games needs populating with games that are not just from mainland China. It was nominated for deletion as a duplicate of a PRC-only videogame category. -- 65.92.244.143 (talk) 06:19, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

So... this is awkward (ROC dating)

Further information: Talk:Republic of China calendar § Dates before 1911, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China § So... this is awkward (ROC dating)

Currently, our actual article on the Republic of China calendar entirely sidesteps the issue of how things before 1912 get dated in that epoch. It's missing from our article but I'd imagine that's what actually happened: the laws introducing the new era simply tacked it on to the end of dating by imperial eras.

However, Wikipedians being Wikipedians, we currently have every year of human history back to 719 BC labeled with its "Minguo calendar" equivalent, with everything before 1912 labelled "NNNN before ROC" followed by "民前NNNN年". Is that actually based on anything real whatsoever? Is it the right phrasing in both languages?

If so, we should add it with whatever authority it has to our article and clarify what happens to the new Chinese dating during Europe's transition from Julian to Gregorian computation. (Does it follow Europe with using Julian dates earlier than some year? and, if so, which one? or does it just retroactively apply Gregorian dates indefinitely backwards, throwing everything a few weeks off standard dating?)

If not, we should be clear about what the cutoff between the two systems was (the old imperial system used lunisolar Chinese months and days and the new ROC system uses renumbered Gregorian ones) and fix ~3000 years of entries. That's probably easiest, since the obvious fix would just be removing the "Minguo calendar" entries from everything before 1912, appropriately leaving only the "Chinese calendar" date for those years. — LlywelynII 19:58, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

zh:民國紀年 says "西元1911年可記為民國前1年，簡稱民前1年，1910年為民前2年，依此類推。" and cites two sources: [1] and a dead link. The source that's still online supports a phrasing like "民國前12[年]", but other sources like this one support an abbreviation like "民前12年". I also see some sources for "民元前", e.g. "公元1128年民元前784年".

In terms of Julian vs. Gregorian dates, I would guess most authors who use this convention just use whatever dates they have handy (whether that's Gregorian or Julian, or maybe Chinese for years further in the past). But that's just a guess. It seems most authors writing about events before the late Qing dynasty use Common Era years or Chinese era name years rather than "before ROC" years. Taiwanese national standard CNS 7648 apparently governs the use of the Minguo calendar, but I can't find an unpaywalled copy. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 14:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Side point (Minguo era naming)

Main page: Talk:Republic of China calendar § Move/Change

Further information: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China § So... this is awkward (ROC dating)

Those 4000ish years of entries are also the most prominent use on the project of the system. They're possibly the most common use of the system in the English language. So... what's it actually called? The year infoboxes use "Minguo calendar", our article is at "Republic of China calendar", and Ngram thinks neither is remotely as common as "ROC era" (albeit with most of those uses talking about the ROC era of various places and topics as specifically the years 1912–1949). Whatever the WP:ENGLISH WP:COMMONNAME for the system is, it's what we should be using for both the page and the 4000ish infoboxes. — LlywelynII 20:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)