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Impact on the Ku Klux Klan Revival[edit]

"His case spurred the creation of the Anti-Defamation League and the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan." Shouldn't there be an elaboration on this in the "After the Trial" section? This line name-drops the KKK but doesn't appear to explain why or how it led to the resurgeance of the KKK. If it's important enough to include in the opening of the article, surely it should be alluded to in places other than the opening the article alone? Horizons 1 (talk) 16:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a paragraph in the aforementioned section. Horizons 1 (talk) 16:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This remains unresolved. Horizons 1 (talk) 00:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+1. Also found this a bit strange 84.52.235.68 (talk) 11:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation 1 does not include supposed quote[edit]

In the first paragraph of the article, it is claimed that the modern consensus is that Mr. Frank was wrongfully convicted, although the citation ([1]) does not contain the quote listed in [n 1] Iamsombrero (talk) 09:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The quoted text begins on the third line of the second page of the archived pdf of the cited source. NebY (talk) 10:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, I apologise.

Viewing from mobile, more than one page weren’t evident. Iamsombrero (talk) 13:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Modern Consensus" is used in the cited article however the author solely pulls from Leonard Dinnerstein's book, The Leo Frank Case (printed in 1968 but cited article states 1987). One person does not constitute a consensus. --Asr1014 (talk) 09:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plenty of sources in the article support the assertion that there is a modern consensus. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The cited article is Professor Wilkes' review of Dinnerstein's book; his statement concerning the modern consensus is not based solely on Dinnerstein and Wilkes explicitly identifies other books and articles. NebY (talk) 20:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Night Witch"[edit]

This article states that Jim Conley misspelled "night watchman" as "night witch". Although it was assumed at the time by many that this was the case, it is inaccurate.

There was a belief among Southern African Americans at the time in a creature called the "night witch". This creature was said to come in through a keyhole at night, get upon the chest of a sleeping person and take his or her breath away. That was what Conley was referring to when he wrote "he said he would love me laid down, play like the night witch did it."

Whites were almost totally unaware of this superstitious African American belief, thus they assumed that "night witch" was a misspelling of "night watchman". Of course, it was not in Conley's best interest to correct them, since he was alleging that Frank dictated the note, and it was highly unlikely that a Jewish man from the North would know about the "night witch". Jersey Jan (talk) 14:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus of wrongful conviction?[edit]

It seems odd to me that the evidence indicating a consensus among historians is single comment from a non-scholarly news source (CNN). It's a low-quality source for such a strong claim. JDiala (talk) 00:06, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the entire article, not just the lede? Specifically the section "Later consensus: a miscarriage of justice"? Acroterion (talk) 00:39, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, right. Strenuously disagree (I think he was guilty), but fighting this fight is probably not worth it on my end. JDiala (talk) 04:38, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]