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Jon Man-ho[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 23:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Jo-guk[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. All sources are match reports. Simione001 (talk) 23:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Choe Ok-chol[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 23:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An Chol-hyok[edit]

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Article fails WP:GNG. Zero references on article. Redirect to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_national_football_team#Top_goalscorers Simione001 (talk) 23:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jerry Newton[edit]

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The article seems to attempt to inherit notability from Wayne Newton, Jerry's younger brother. WP:NOTINHERITED applies. Checking the references is challenging. Jerry does appear, generally with reference to the sibling, and as a passing reference to Jerry. The article seems to be more a tribute (WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies) than anything else. Jerry was obviously notable to those who loved and respected him, but the references do not show a pass of any of WP:BIO, WP:NMUSICIAN, nor WP:NACTOR. Releasing records does not mean notability, nor does a bit part in an episode of Bonanza where he is listed as a cast member, but his part was not a named character. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Era Tak[edit]

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Fails WP:NBIO. Current references are mostly primary or from YouTube. There are a couple to Amar Ujala, but they don't seem to meet WP:SIGCOV. There doesn't seem to be much improvement in terms of references when compared to the previous afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Era Tak. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 23:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

François Thibaut[edit]

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Article subject does not look notable generally or as an academic or educator. All of the citation links in the article are actually to the same New York Times article, which only briefly mentions the article subject: "In 1994, the school had fewer than 50 students learning Spanish; now, there are 180, said Francois Thibaut, the school's director. A class had to be added this fall to accommodate the increasing demand, he said." [1]. I was not able to locate most of the other links/sources, and what I found did not mention the article subject. – notwally (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh[edit]

Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Charles[edit]

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a journalist and added three references. Two are not independent, however, and the other is a passing mention. I don't think he meets WP:GNG or WP:NJOURNALIST. The article has been marked as possibly not notable since 2020. Tacyarg (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daren Streblow[edit]

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Highly promotional article (more in the history) of a non-notable comedian. Not a single acceptable secondary source proving notability is included and I can't find any--it's all announcements and links to his podcast on Google (including News and Books). This is the best I can find. Drmies (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Ebarle[edit]

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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a Filipino men's footballer, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. Contested PROD. JTtheOG (talk) 17:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I researched Dean Ebarle, it has some notability, being the defender for a popular football team, im not that much interested in football, so correct me or ping me if im wrong.
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Can you present the sources of your research? Svartner (talk) 17:13, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jon Molloy[edit]

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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. All I found were transactional announcements (1, 2, 3) and a routine injury update (1). There seem to be multiple redirect candidates (List of Wakefield Trinity players, List of Salford Red Devils players). JTtheOG (talk) 19:40, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Keep Some non-routine coverage here. I'm a bit surprised I couldn't find more for someone who made nearly 50 Super League appearances. Perhaps someone can add more using offline sources, as a lot of websites unfortunately haven't kept archives during the time period he played in. J Mo 101 (talk) 09:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Sufficiently soured in my opinion. Mn1548 (talk) 16:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep There seem to be a few articles with more than trivial mention. Given the time period, I also suspect there may be additional sources out there that are not reflected by internet sources. At least weak support for keeping. – notwally (talk) 23:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nana Wanjau[edit]

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Non-notable businesswoman and "philanthropist." Sources do not support notability under WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. Most references are WP:PRIMARYSOURCES and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS or they fail verification. The only examples of WP:SIGCOV are problematic and unreliable. Mkazi (the website is inactive) was a lifestyle blog with no named editors or legitimate editorial process. The Parents Africa profile is really a WP:INTERVIEW, and it makes major errors (for example, stating that she left a highly-paid corporate job in a year when she would have been 20). Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - I have reorganized the article and added some news articles sources from Gale. The top two references are here:[1][2] The Mkazi article mentioned above also provides biographical details. I updated the citation for the Mkazi article, and other inactive URLs, to use archived URLs. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Munde, Claire (October 22, 2016). "I blend my charity work with personal growth". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya) – via Gale.
  2. ^ "No husband no dignity? Group helps widows rebuild their lives". The Star (Nairobi, Kenya). July 15, 2017 – via Gale.
Can you provide some details on what the second Star source you cited says since there appears to be no online version? Thanks! The first one (link here) is a WP:INTERVIEW and thus would not qualify for notability. As for the Mkazi piece, it was a lifestyle blog with no named editors or legitimate editorial process and thus cannot be a reliable source for purposes of notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second article is 1300 words on the charity founded by Wanjau. Also, I would argue that the first source I provided includes expansion of the conversation with Wanjau, and thus showing 'depth of preparation' that would be needed to establish notability as is quoted in the essay you linked. DaffodilOcean (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1300 words on Wanjau or on her charity? Re: the Star interview, every other paragraph is a quote from Wanjau. There are no quotes from other interviewees, and she appears to be the sole source relied upon by the interviewer, which shows the opposite of "depth of preparation." Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article you cannot access is about her charity and biographical details on her. I stand by my statements that the citations I provide were more than interviews; the Mkazi piece and the lengthy editorial from Parents Africa are also more than interviews. At this point I leave it to other people to comment. DaffodilOcean (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment. You may be able to access Gale databases through your local public library. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:02, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rojda Aykoç[edit]

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Her notability cannot be proven by independent and reliable sources. Only IFEX source is good, but it is not adequate for passing GNG. As a result of the research conducted on the person, it was not possible to find independent and reliable sources. Considering there are not enough resources, deletion is appropriate. Kadı Message 20:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep She is a notable singer, mostly known for musical performances in Kurdish. More than enough sources are available, from reliable news outlets like Rudaw, Evrensel, NTV, Hurriyet, Gazete Duvar
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2024 official visit by Shehbaz Sharif to China[edit]

2024 official visit by Shehbaz Sharif to China (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:NOTNEWS. WP considers the enduring notability of events and its WP:TOOSOON to determine enduring historical significance or widespread impact of this visit. Saqib (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. The content of this articles meets the criteria for inclusion and meet WP:N. The remover Saqib WP:POINT, did not communicate directly with the creator (me) about how to "improve" this articles. Instead, after I continued to add numerous reliable sources, Saqib decided to simply delete it, which also violates WP:FAITH. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 23:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • TinaLees-Jones, But the problem here is that the article just doesn't meet the WP:N. It's not about needing improvement; it's about meeting the criteria for inclusion on WP. And just so you know, I don't need anyone's permission to nominate articles for deletion. Still, I do want to acknowledge the effort you've put into creating this article. — Saqib (talk) 06:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • User:Saqib: the first thing that needs to be emphasized is that the friendly relations between Pakistan and China are dependent on the exchange of visits by top leaders, the official visits themselves, especially since both Pakistan and China, both with hundreds of millions of people, are equipped with attention (WP:N). It's not a vlogger with millions of followers releasing a new song, it's not a visit by a minister or a senator, it's an official diplomatic event representing the will of the nations. I'm not fully aware of Pakistan's internal political tensions, and I don't really care what a specific Pakistani editor's favorites are for specific politicians. WP:N is judged on the basis of facts and sources, and if a visit lacks official coverage from both sides, then it naturally lacks attention. If the Western media also be aware of, then this proves that the event has really touched some people's interests, which strengthens the basis of WP:N. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • As far as Nawaz Sharif's visits to China are concerned, there have been five in total, one in July 2013, one in April 2014 (to attend Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures in Asia), one in November 2014 to attend APEC 2014, one in 2015 December 2015 SCO, and once in May 2017 at the 2017 Belt and Road Forum. then the correct way would have been to write the 2013 official visit by Nawaz Sharif to China as an independent article, with the rest to be merged into the corresponding conference ones, and if I am happy I would write it later. The correct editorial logic, however, is that diplomacy is all about reciprocal visits, and entries on reciprocal visits that corroborate each other add to the credibility and readability of the articles - one by one, gradually. --TinaLees-Jones (talk) 07:20, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • TinaLees-Jones, Notability is not temporary and WP:LASTING states An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable. State visits are usually routine and we've no way of knowing if this particular visit will be historically significant or even momentous event, since the history hasn't been written yet. All we have are some news reports, which are WP:ROTM coverage. Nor this visit yielded any significant outcome or significant effect on the Pak-China relation so I think that it's just like another routine state visit without enduring significance and so clearly fails WP:NEVENT. The press coverage of this official visit doesn't automatically fulfill the requirements of WP:NEVENT. I won't delve into this further. I feel I've expressed my perspective adequately so now I'll leave it to others to make their own assessments. — Saqib (talk) 07:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Very weak keep. This is a rare case where I believe WP:ROUTINE applies. All state visits are covered extensively in Chinese media. However, the Al Jazeera and Reuters sources make it hard for me to !vote delete in good faith. Toadspike [Talk] 04:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Toadspike, But I don't really see anything particularly extraordinary about this visit. Take, for example, Nawaz Sharif's visit to China back in 2014. That was a big deal because it kicked off the CPEC project in Pakistan, which was worth billions! But we don't even have an article about that visit. So, why should we have one for Shahbaz's recent trip which was a pretty routine stuff. WP isn't a newspaper, right? — Saqib (talk) 06:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      I don't see anything particularly extraordinary either, but the significant coverage in Al Jazeera and Reuters, which are not based in Pakistan or China, makes it seem vaguely notable. Your other argument is just WP:OTHERSTUFF. I already marked my !vote as "very weak" and the closer will interpret it accordingly, what more do you want? Toadspike [Talk] 06:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Saqib. - Amigao (talk) 03:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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All Eyes on Rafah[edit]

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This article is about a social media slogan, with the thumbnail - essentially its main bit - a social media AI generated image which was trending on Instagram on two days. The slogan gained traction as it was used by, among many others, many social media influencers. In accordance to WP:NOTDIARY, as well as WP:RECENT as a whole (because it is a small event belonging to the Rafah offensive), I believe this article should be deleted. A bit about this can be added to the "international reaction" header in the Rafah offensive article, but it should not exist standalone Pharaoh496 (talk) 21:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as it had a seismic impact, especially in allowing broader acceptance in having pro-Palestinian views. In the same way the black squares in the BLM movement swept across platforms in 2020, All Eyes of Rafah was a turning point for many in Instagram and beyond, and detailing its impact would be too long for a comfortable read in the Rafah offensive page. This page does just that, and to simplify it wouldn't do justice to the shockwaves they've presented. It may have a minute effect on the grand scheme of things in politics, but it sure swayed the limit of what's deemed acceptable across international communities and societies. Azurevanilla ash (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Like you said, it has had a minute effect on the grand scheme of things in politics. If it turns out to be more significant in the future, it can be recreated. Not right not. Pharaoh496 (talk) 06:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. We aren't responsible for cataloguing every single viral phenomenon, ever. If this proves to have enough significance to be covered a year or two from now, then maybe we can re-create then. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete per WP:NOT. This topic is discussed in reliable sources but does not meet the additional criteria for a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 05:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep the interest in this topic as a new phenomenon in global conflict media has continued. See for example, a 25 minute TV program aired yesterday, and an AP explainer from last week. If organizations like these can create post-fact focused articles and programs on the topic, it is equally appropriate for Wikipedia. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Like I and other users have mentioned, it violated WP:NOT. A paragraph or even 2 can be included on the main rafah page instead Pharaoh496 (talk) 07:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I concur that WP:NOT and WP:NOTNEWS are violated by this article. Garsh (talk) 18:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NOT, though maybe a few sentences could be salvaged into some other articles. FortunateSons (talk) 14:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete this flavor of the day campaign per NOT and NOTNEWS. gidonb (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete . Wikipedia is not a directory for every internet slogan. Hogo-2020 (talk) 08:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep People voting delete perhaps have a case for the abstract "slogan", but that's not all this article represents.
The most notable aspect of this phrase is the viral AI-generated image that was shared over 50 million times on Instagram, generating worldwide headlines specifically focused on the image. The AI-generated image and associated online protest clearly meet GNG with massive coverage in every top newspaper. Multiple facets of the AI image are covered in reliable sources that bring it beyond WP:NOTNEWS:
  1. Comparisons with Blackout Tuesday and other "online protests". Image has already been held up as an example of performative activism and surely will continue to be referenced as such in the future.
  2. Early high-profile AI image. "All Eyes on Rafah" has been shared over 50 million times, making it one of the most seen / most shared AI images of all time right at the cusp of this "AI boom" that's currently happening. This image is going to forever have a place in the history of early Artificial intelligence art.
  3. Usage of AI in political/social movements, disinformation, deepfakes, Artificial intelligence in government, etc. This "All Eyes on Rafah" image has already spawned discussion about the ethics of the use of AI images in political movements, and is sure to continue to be referenced as such. Such as yesterday in the Washington Post: Deepfakes and AI-generated images have been around for several years, but as the technology improves and the tools to make them become widely available, they’ve become increasingly common on social media platforms. An AI-generated image of a sprawling refugee camp with the words “All Eyes on Rafah” went viral in late May as a way for people to show their support for Palestinians in Gaza. As major elections take place across the globe, some politicians have tried to use fake images to make their opponents look bad.
The image has cited "enduring notability" in reliable sources, passing the WP:NOTNEWS bar. The image has already prompted re-analysis on the above facets in the weeks since it went viral. PK-WIKI (talk) 21:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Each and every reason which you have given does not make sense for the given page:
  • The article, not the picture is being nominated here for deletion. The image may / may not exist on here or on commons - as it is the most notable aspect of the article. It does not warrant an entire article for itself.
  • Blackout Tuesday was an event. A phenomenon. It does not compare to a mere hashtag - version of an AI image which lasted for 24 hours on social media - without materialising. Thats exactly why part of this should be added to Rafah or sample AI pages and not have one of its own.
Pharaoh496 (talk) 08:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is mainly about the image and associated social media protest. It's perfectly valid to write encyclopedia articles about notable images. The AI image does warrant an entire article for itself, based on its cited coverage in reliable sources.
50 million people posting this image was also an event/phenomenon. It was directly compared to Blackout Tuesday by myriad reliable sources. Any deletion arguments here apply equally to Blackout Tuesday; neither should be deleted. The next significant coverage about the next social media protest in the future will surely mention both.
PK-WIKI (talk) 17:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NOTNEWS. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: per PK-WIKI. The image was specifically covered for being AI-generated, which will have a long-term impact. C F A 💬 14:38, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not a valid reason - thats the image you are talking about. That image can exist on commons or whatever. It does not warrant its own article, as per reasons I and other users have given above Pharaoh496 (talk) 08:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An encyclopedia article can be written about a notable image or photograph. We have thousands of such articles on wikipedia. PK-WIKI (talk) 15:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the GNG, has generated widespread coverage across a range of sources. For example, these sources are all entirely devoted to covering this event:
  1. Associated Press
  2. Al-Jazeera
  3. NBC News
  4. BBC
  5. NPR (which calls it the internet's most viral AI-created image ever)
  6. Vox
  7. Time
  8. Washington Post
  9. Wired
  10. The National (UAE)
  11. France 24
Along with articles covering the phrase along with the image such as the NYTimes. No actual case for deletion exists here, this clears the GNG easily. nableezy - 16:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was also news of "Where is Kate"? And that article is deleted. You have not said any reason how it supports wikipedia's scope to be here. Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia covers notable events, this is one per the sources I just cited. nableezy - 17:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per NOTNEWS. Vegan416 (talk) 17:52, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    NOTNEWS is about routine news coverage, not full length articles about an event. It simply does not apply here, and no matter how many people parrot the same bogus claim it remains a bogus claim. nableezy - 19:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This can hardly be described as an event... Vegan416 (talk) 07:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That is based on nothing. The sources are clearly treating it as noteworthy event and are giving it in depth coverage. nableezy - 17:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Nableezy's list of sources above. Additionally, most slogans don't receive even a fraction of the coverage this one has clearly received, especially through WP:RS. Pretty much reiterating what PK-WIKI stated earlier, but the AI-Generated image in particular has been widely publicized as a key example of performative activism and it's very clear that this entire slogan has met WP:GNG standards at this point. Most votes in favor of deleting the article so far have vaguely referenced WP:NOT and WP:NOTNEWS without making any sort of clarification as to how this article specifically violates such policies. I particularly don't see how this violates NOTNEWS, this is not "offering first-hand news reports on a breaking story" or constituting as a primary source. B3251(talk) 02:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Having sources does not warrant having an article for an internet phenomenon which did not last for over thirty-six hours.
    • The article is predominantly about an image. The image can exist on commons and information / events can be put in other places.
    Pharaoh496 (talk) 11:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A political slogan is not an “internet phenomenon which did not last for over thirty-six hours.” Somebody in favor of deleting Blackout Tuesday, which drew many parallels with this, could use the same argument; that does not make it true nor does it warrant deletion for that article or this one. Unless we know where exactly information about this can be merged into, we shouldn’t be vaguely suggesting that it should just be moved somewhere else. B3251(talk) 16:21, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Its a pro-palestine slogan, yes. But the reason it gaines coverage is because of the internet phenomenon. No materialistic action/event took place.
    • I have an opinion on where it could be merged - Rafah offensive where it gained traction. In the reactions section.
    Pharaoh496 (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The event is the 50 million people sharing it. nableezy - 17:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per Nableezy's list, Huldra (talk) 21:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the exhaustive source list provided by Nableezy. A huge chunk of high quality sources that are explicitly about the image and slogan makes me extremely confused by the voters claiming this somehow fails GNG. How? Similarly, simply saying "This fails WP:NOT", isn't helpful, which part? NOTNEWS specifics "Routine news coverage", which these articles clearly aren't. The coverage here makes this an obvious keep. Parabolist (talk) 22:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just to clarify here, those in favor of deleting have not argued against this meeting GNG, but rather primarily NOT and NOTNEWS, albeit quite vaguely. B3251(talk) 23:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Lakki Marwat bombing[edit]

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Fails NEVENT. No lasting effects. Saqib (talk) 20:34, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: "No lasting effects" seems rather early to call three days since the bombing, the day after an overnight operation resulting from it was held. There's arguments that could be made in regards to WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NEVENTS, but WP:LASTING is not the one (yet), since that one specifically states It may take weeks or months to determine whether or not an event has a lasting effect. This does not, however, mean recent events with unproven lasting effect are automatically non-notable, and less-than-a-week-ago is certainly recent. AddWittyNameHere 01:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AddWittyNameHere, Noted. How about WP:TOOSOON ? — Saqib (talk) 06:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2024. Pakistan has so much terrorism that the odds of an individual incident getting long term coverage are slim unless it is exceptionally high profile and deadly, which this is not. However, it is notable as part of Pakistan's overall problem, so the information should be retained. This is what we did with the 100 past Pakistani terrorism articles that were AfD'd the past few months (though a few stayed their own articles) PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
PARAKANYAA, Sure - I'm fine with merge into Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2024. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 23:01, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as the event has received WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE in international media: 9 June 2024, 11 June 2024, 16 June 2024. Maybe rename the article, but such events are almost always notable due to Pakistan Army connection. I'd suggest to defer this AFD for a year so we can see the lasting impact. 103.12.120.46 (talk) 22:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • IP- As per this report, Pakistan witnessed as many as 245 incidents of terror attacks and counter-terror operations during the *irst quarter of 2024, resulting in 432 fatalities I'm sure each of them received similar amount of press coverage but do we need a standalone WP article on each one of them? I don't think so. This barely two paragraph long article should better be merged. WP is NOTDIRECTORY of terrorist attacks in Pakistan so we better focus on quality of our articles, not quantity. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 23:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge as per above. The event does not seem to be too outstanding from other terrorist activities in Pakistan to merit its own article. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Midlands Rugby League Division Two[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Midlands Rugby League Division One[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tony Andruzzi[edit]

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Borderline notable magician possibly but complete dearth of any remotely reliably sourced biographical and career info. as far as I can tell. I don't think this link cuts it. Tkaras1 (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hull & District League[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CMS Yorkshire league[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cumbria Men's League[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cumberland League[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Flindt Landing station[edit]

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Non notable whistle stop on the Canadian National transcontinental line. Not even a stain station, this is just a spot along the tracks where the train will stop and let you off. –dlthewave ☎ 21:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota–Penn State football rivalry[edit]

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This was soft deleted earlier this year and recreated, however the previous rationale for deleting this article remains, in that there is a lack of WP:SIGCOV from reliable secondary sources to meet the WP:NRIVALRY or WP:GNG. Don't think this qualifies for a speedy deletion, so bringing it to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Midlands Junior League[edit]

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Trying to tidy up pages on the UK amature structure. Can't seem to find any sources for this or relevant information elsewhere on Wikipedia. Article unreferenced and unvarifyable, WP:TNT may apply. Mn1548 (talk) 19:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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One Night in Malibu[edit]

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There's almost a complete lack of secondary news sources on this album. The first two sources are about the "digital experience" video event rather than the album, and one of those, uDiscover Music, is a news site owned by Universal Music Group. It received no reviews from notable outlets (the one on the article is a college student reviewing the album, not a professional music critic, and the only other source I found through Google is a WordPress blog), and didn't chart, so I think it should be redirected to OneRepublic discography as it's still a valid redirect. Ss112 19:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to OneRepublic discography#Live albums per above. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:18, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Capture of Peshawar (1758)[edit]

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Does this pass GNG?

Its not a battle (even a minor one) and seems to have only the briefest of mentions in sources (one line, at most). Slatersteven (talk) 13:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment pinging User:Mohammad Umar Ali who made the following case that the article does pass the general notability guidelines on my talkpage here. I assume this user wants to add these comments below. Malinaccier (talk) 19:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The editor who nominated it for deletion argued that it did not pass WP:GNG[3] but it actually does pass it. WP:GNG deals with following points mentioned below I have explained how this article passes every point.

1.) "Presumed" It's not an assumption but a fact as per the sources cited in the article (I have mentioned the sources in 4th point). Moreover it does require its own article as it helps to demonstrate the territorial peak of Maratha Confederacy which was in 1758 just after the capture of Peshawar Fort. Also it helps to understand the regional history of Peshawar which you could see as it has been included in History of Peshawar Wiki article.

2.) "Significant coverage" It does have significant coverage not just in one or two WP:RS but almost every WP:RS which deals with Maratha history or Afghan-Maratha wars, etc. Even various news articles including The Times of India have covered this event see this link; [4]

3.) "Reliable" As told before it's supported by multiple WP:RS sources. And as per the the wiki guidelines availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.

4.) "Sources" All the below sources are considered reliable WP:RS.

i.) Advanced Study in the History of Modern India 1707-1813 - Jaswant Lal Mehta - Google Books link [5] pg 237 quoting; Thus nature did provide a golden opportunity to the Marathas to establish their sway over whole of Punjab and northwest India, upto Attock and Khyber pass, although the spell of their rule proved very shortlived.

ii.) Pletcher, Kenneth (2010). The History of India link [6] pg 198 quoting; Thus in 1757 Ahmad Shah's son Timur, appointed governor of Punjab, was forced to retreat from Lahore to Peshawar under the force of attacks from Sikhs and Marathas.

iii.) Pradeep Barua,The state at war in South Asia link [7]page 55; quoting: The Marathas attacked soon after and, with some help from the Sikhs, managed to capture Attock, Peshawar, and Multan between April and May 1758.

iv.) The Marathas - Cambridge History of India (Vol. 2, Part 4) : New Cambridge History of India link [8] pg 132 quoting: First, we shall look at the expanding areas controlled by the Marathas, and there were many. Maratha leaders pushed into Rajasthan, the area around Delhi, and on into the Punjab. They attacked Bundelkund and the borders of Uttar Pradesh. Further east, the Marathas attacked Orissa and the borders of Bengal and Bihar.

v.) Moreover, Govind Sardesai, New History of Marathas Vol 2, It has a whole chapter based on this article and conquest of Punjab by Marathas (See the below links)
Above book Pg 400 link [9] quoting; At Lahore, therefore, Raghunath rao and his advisors found the situation easy and favourable. Abdussamad Khan who was a prisoner in Maratha hands, with characteristic double dealing offered to undertake the defence of frontier agasinst Abdali on behalf of the Marathas. From Poona the Peshwa dispatched Abdur Rahman with all haste to Lahore with instructions to Raghunath to make the best use of him in the scheme he was now executing- Raghunathrao, therefore, consigned the trans-Indus regions of Peshawar to these two Muslim agents, Abdur Rahman and Abdussamad Khan, posting them at Peshawar, with a considerable body of troops.

5.) "Independent of the subject" All the sources stated above are independent as it includes both Indian as well as foreign authors. All these sources are considered reliable (WP:RS). Advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not included in the sources (4th point).

So, it clearly does pass WP:GNG for which it was nominated for deletion.
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Humberto Bruni Lamanna[edit]

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Non-notable per WP:MUSICBIO, and article is a WP:BLP apparently unsourced since its creation in 2007. The only confirmation I could find in reliable sources that he exists is a passing mention in this paper about his father, and no confirmation of any of the claims made of his performances and inventions. His father es: Blas Bruni Celli seems notable, but on Wikipedia, notability is not inherited. Wikishovel (talk) 19:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete, non-notable vanity page. Astaire (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmed Farah Dualeh[edit]

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This is possibly a hoax. I've moved the discussion over from the hoax talk page to save time. This is my reasoning:

While attempting to WP:DEORPHAN the article on Ahmed Farah Dualeh, I noticed an inconsistency. The article states that he is the President of Jubaland, whereas Jubaland has Ahmed Madobe as the president in the infobox. The results of my research were: Google: I could not find any reliable sources to support the claim that he is the president of Jubaland, or even that he exists. Most sources are either clones of Wikipedia or social media accounts. JSTOR: Searching "Ahmed Farah Dualeh" in quotes had zero results. Searching "Ahmed Dualeh" in quotes had a six results. Some of the results are about Elmi Ahmed Dualeh, which I initially believed that "Elmi" was some sort of Somalian title, which I wasn't familar with. However, it is not, as the papers refer to Elmi Ahmed Duale. One result, Against All Odds: The History of Archaeological Research in Somaliland and Somalia, says The most remarkable of these students is Ahmed Dualeh Jama, who published his PhD on Mogadishu; so talks about a different person who has the same first and middle name. The article was created, with the claim that he is the president of Jubaland, over fourteen years ago.

However, after this discussion I would keep. Following on from research, I would !vote to Merge this article with Præsidenten fra Nordvest. The documentary is independently notable with the Danish sources I've found. Most of the sources I've found on Dualeh tie his notability to the film. Svampesky (talk) 18:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC); modified 16:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC); modified 14:37, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I have had to remove the URL as malware. There are no sources. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Special:Diff/1228531930, I'm assuming. Thank you for checking. When I tried it, I got a "Deceptive website warning" and didn't know if it was a false-positive or not. Svampesky (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Searching the Somali form of his name, Axmed Faarax Ducaale, does turn up a few hits that support his work with the Somali community in Denmark, notably this call-in segment on VOA Somali. 2018 visit to Garbahare (described as an expatriate), 2015 comments on Ethiopian intervention in Gedo (described as a politician), and a 2014 conference of intellectuals (described as speaking for the Sade community). There's also a 2013 news blog describes him as "Foreign President of the Jubbaland State Administration" (not WP:RS) and a link to a compromised URL that the search headline seems to be describing him as the "self-proclaimed president of Jubbaland." He's listed in this 2010 press release about a Somali community meeting in Denmark. There was also a 2011 talk group post calling for him to be declared president of Jubbaland; and here's a 2012 talk group post describing him as president.
    Overall, it seems likely that he is a real person and the article is largely accurate in describing his work in Denmark. The claim that he was/is president of Jubbaland is not supported (though it seems there is a group that, at least in 2011/2012, recognized him as president). It might be possible to cobble together enough sources to meet WP:N, but the statement about being president is definitely more aspirational than actual. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 20:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like he's also the subject of the 2017 Danish movie Præsidenten fra Nordvest, which would argue he could meet WP:N. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 20:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was unable to find the documentary available anywhere. The production company is listed on IMDb as Film & TV-Compagniet ApS, which translates to "Film & TV Company Ltd." I'm assuming (hoping) it's a does what it says on the tin company. I found their contact information here and I'll email them to request a free copy of the film for the purpose of editing Wikipedia. Before I do this, could anyone advise whether this might go against any Wikipedia policies, such as conflict of interest, primary sources, or original research? The documentary could provide valuable insights and guide where to look on further research for the article. Svampesky (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It looks like the film is available to stream at Filmcentralen [10], which needs a subscription from a Danish educational institution, and Filmstriben [11], which only works if you have access to a library in Denmark. Malerisch (talk) 17:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have access to the film, and I've found lots of Danish sources about it. I have also boldly created Præsidenten fra Nordvest, per the clear growing consensus that the article on Dualeh will be kept. Svampesky (talk) 18:19, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pasting my comment from Wikipedia talk:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia here:

This isn't a hoax, but "Jubaland" is a bit misleading here. In ~2010, Somalia was embroiled in a certain civil war (it's still ongoing); much of the region of Jubaland was (and still is) occupied by al-Shabaab. One consequence of this is that a bunch of self-declared mini-states were established, many with competing claims and no de-facto control. This article from Somalia Report has more detail on the mini-states and mentions Dualeh as the president of a "Jubbaland (2)"; this other Somalia Report article contains an interview with Dualeh, who established his claim in January 2012 in the US. This claim obviously didn't go very far; other claims like Azania, which was initially supported by Kenya during its invasion of southern Somalia to oust al-Shabaab, had more success. There are other sources as well; for example, here's an interview with Dualeh in which he talks about being the "president of Jubaland" at around 1:20. He also appears in Danish media (where he's based), like Jyllands-Posten [12] [13] and this in-depth profile of him in POV International [14], and has an X profile [15].

The POV International profile mentions the Danish movie that Tcr25 found above. Malerisch (talk) 20:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here's how a Danish newspaper interview/report describes his "presidency" when talking about the movie: "In 2012, Danish-Somali Ahmed Dualeh was elected by exiled Somalis as president of the regions Gedo, Middle Jubba and lower Jubba, which together make up Jubaland in the civil war-torn country of Somalia, and it is precisely this story that DR tells in the new documentary." (via Google Translate). —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and reworked that section of the article (and removed the infobox) to reflect what's in these sources. More work and sourcing on the rest of the piece is needed, but I would say keep while acknowledging the article needs improvement. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 15:45, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the sources found above. Malerisch (talk) 17:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My !vote remains "keep". I disagree with the nominator's statement that "most of the sources I've found on Dualeh tie his notability to the film": profiles of Dualeh like [16], [17], and [18] make little reference to the documentary about him at all, and even if a source like [19] does refer to it, that in no way implies that the documentary is the cause of his notability—clearly, it's his life story that is of interest.
    These profiles of Dualeh show that he meets WP:GNG, so WP:NPOL is not relevant here per WP:BASIC. I also have to mention that the documentary itself is a reliable source with (a lot of) WP:SIGCOV—most people are not the subject of an hour-long documentary about them!
    In my opinion, none of the sources cited in this discussion prove that the documentary itself is notable per WP:NFILM, so I'm not sure why we'd merge this article into the documentary's article. None of the linked articles provide independent (DR isn't in this case), significant coverage of the film per WP:NFILM (e.g. a film review or a detailed discussion of the filming process); instead, they all discuss Dualeh rather than the documentary itself. That isn't to say that the documentary isn't notable, as reviews of the documentary like [20], [21], and [22] do exist, but it needs to be shown that they meet the nationally known critic standard of WP:NFILM. Malerisch (talk) 01:53, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Request Per advice from my mentor Special:Diff/1228772919, I would like to withdraw the AfD, but Walsh90210's singular delete !vote is preventing me from doing so. It cites there are no sources, but sources have now been found. Would you be willing to review your !vote? I'm NOT asking you to change your !vote. If you still think the article should be deleted, that's fine. It's not the end of the world if the AfD runs for seven days. Svampesky (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This is definitely not a hoax; it is about an actual person. But I am not withdrawing my vote, it is not sufficiently clear that this person is notable (and *definitely* not clear that he and the film about him are separately notable); I would prefer discussion continue. In particular, his "political career" does not meet WP:NPOL. Walsh90210 (talk) 20:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Great to hear. To clarify, I was not requesting you to change your vote. Rather, I was informing you to review the sources that were presented following your statement about the absence of sources. I've changed my !vote to merge, for reasons listed in my edited opening statement. Svampesky (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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World Unity Football Alliance[edit]

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An "international football" organization article that is a WP:HOAX in its current form. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • No comment on GNG, but this is very clearly not a hoax. SportingFlyer T·C 19:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • As but one example: there is a "Karen" team listed under Asia, but it is a local group in Minnesota. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      You are likely unaware that the Karen are an ethnic group from Myanmar who have a diaspora in Minneapolis. SportingFlyer T·C 02:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The Karen Football Association, which you can find can find plenty of details about through internet searches are a Karen diaspora group based in Minneapolis. Sherms95 (talk) 13:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The Kashmir team is a local club in Bradford. The organization (and the article) pretense to be "national teams for sub-national entities", but it isn't; it's a few random local clubs with ethnic ties that signed up for a press release with this group. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:26, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete – It may not be HOAX, but it didn't even organize any competition to be relevant. Svartner (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2024
  • That's not true - the BBC even lists Chagos as the winner of one of their competitions: [23] SportingFlyer T·C 09:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 20:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep Most of the coverage isn't independent, but there's some coverage, including from Bradford, [24], BBC mentions, the Non-League Football Paper, and the nomination was based on a mis-understanding. SportingFlyer T·C 09:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    They basically do not organize any relevant competitions, a single mention does not prevent failure in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Esperanto national football team[edit]

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This isn't a "national football team". In an attempt to propose a move target, I determined that it should be deleted rather than renamed.

For the first match: some attendees at the 99º Universal Esperanto Congress had a friendly game of football during the event. [25]

The rest appears to be cosplay. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is simply not true... it literally played in two non-FIFA organization tournaments (COSANFF Cup and Zamenhof Cup) among other games against teams in non-FIFA organizations (Mapuche etc), and on top of that it does meet WP:GNG by any means. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 04:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Playing in a non-FIFA tournament is not the claim to fame you think it is... GiantSnowman 17:29, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Passing GNG is the claim to notability we think it is, and I don't know how you could argue against the articles here which were published in clearly reliable sources. SportingFlyer T·C 09:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to World Esperanto Congress or Universal Esperanto Association. The subject is notable given the multiple reliable sources talking about it, but there's not much long-term coverage and not an enormous amount that needs to be said about it, so it fits better in context with other things the same people have been doing. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Third option could be Esperanto, maybe in the Culture section Mrfoogles (talk) 21:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also like to say that if it does not get merged or deleted, it should be moved to "Esperanto (football team)". I would move it, but this is during an AFD. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimír Hirsch[edit]

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Previously deleted and repeatedly created by sockpuppets and meatpuppets; also, more importantly, it's questionably sourced. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:29, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Bandcamp, Soundcloud, his website and the usual streaming sites are what come up in a search. I don't see anything in RS about this person. Delete for lack of sourcing, likely also not meeting notability. Oaktree b (talk) 21:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

InterTown Series[edit]

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Seemingly non notable competition that relys on a single source Mn1548 (talk) 17:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1919–1927)[edit]

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My third big afd nomination in the Anglo-Australian fancruft forrest on here, planted in the 2000s. Its simple, this time as it is a set of articles about Herbert Sutcliffe, where exactly identical articles were successfully called for deletion here just today Pharaoh496 (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason:
Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1928–1932) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Herbert Sutcliffe's cricket career (1933–1939) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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  • Delete If you can't describe a person's career in their own BLP article in several paragraphs, that might be a sign you should learn to edit, not infodump into three separate chronological articles. Nate • (chatter) 23:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rap Rakesh Sethulingam[edit]

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Barely meets WP:MUSICBIO, a non-notable music artist. I can't find any notable works or significant coverage about the subject. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 17:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Session capping[edit]

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Article is dependent on a single reference that is browser session preservation and migration (BSPM) infrastructure, and does not have the term "session capping" anywhere in the document. Subsequent searches through Google and other reputable resources. The only loose references on session capping can be found at there places https://www.thedrum.com/industryinsights/2017/03/08/the-importance-getting-creative-when-optimising-your-programmatic-ads and https://forum.revive-adserver.com/topic/3018-an-ad-is-not-returned-on-first-pageview-when-banner-session-capping-is-enabled/, both of which are not reliable sources to reference. Additionally, there is a page Frequency (marketing) that encompasses this topic, whic I've already gone ahead to copy over. Erictleung (talk) 19:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lawunuia language[edit]

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Fails verification that a language of this name exists. (I do not consider the existence of an ISO 639-3 sufficient verification.) If verified, it could redirect to Northwest Solomonic languages. Walsh90210 (talk) 19:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Well, it exists, its alternative name being used in the title of a 1976 paper, for example: Banoni, Piva and Papuanization. And it's mentioned in some other sources, like [33] and [34]. So, I'm not sure if there's enough coverage out there to justify a separate article, but I oppose deletion, and support at the very least a redirect. toweli (talk) 19:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep We list 2 sources beside ISO. We'd only merge if it's arguably not a distinct language. Otherwise, the consensus is that languages get articles. If a language doesn't have an article, we create one, so this would just be recreated. If we discover it doesn't actually exist, we petition ISO to retire the language code, but SIL even updated the speaker population recently. — kwami (talk) 20:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Bad Afd based on wrong premises. "Fails verification" means that the source Ethnologue has a complete entry (with info about location, speakers etc.) about a non-exisiting language? That's a bold claim. Leaves us with WP:N, but real languages are notable. For those in doubt in this case, see User:Toweli's list of sources above. –Austronesier (talk) 22:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Murree rebellion of 1857[edit]

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Well it has needed more sourcing since 2014, much of the content seems to be about other events, and there is no real; evidence of notable coverage.

As well as some of the sources being a bit iffy. Slatersteven (talk) 15:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    I agree with you that more sources should be added, maybe also an infobox to sum everything up since it's a pretty long article. However I could find multiple reputable sources with a quick google search such as articles by the University of the Punjab, the Pakistan Perspective, the United Service Institution of India, and a book titled Murree Rebellion of 1857 by Barnabas Crist Bal. I think it's important that we expand on this article instead of deleting a piece of history. Thomas Preuss Harrison (talk) 18:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes the article needs improvement but the event recorded was not an insignificant one in the context of the chaotic developments of 1857. Saul David's 2002 history The Indian Mutiny records the concern expressed by Sir John Lawrence as "disaffection and mutiny spread" during August of that year and that this included the Muslim tribal unrest in the Murree Hills. Buistr (talk) 07:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Poor, unreliable sources and many fails verification. Some of these unreliable sources are WP:RAJ era and primary sources. The event was not significant and if reliable sources with coverage is to be found, it can very well be merged to Indian Rebellion of 1857. RangersRus (talk) 13:40, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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KeWlers[edit]

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ravenstein (film)[edit]

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Does not meet WP:GNG, no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Coverage is limited to promotional announcements of upcoming screenings in a local paper ([35]), awards published by non-notable film festivals and primary sources. Rotten Tomatoes lists no critics' reviews; searching online, I was able to find only this, which is an unreliable one-man blog. signed, Rosguill talk 15:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Draftify: It could have been redirected to the director with the local source mentioned above but....the nominator just moved their page to DRAFTspace five minutes before nominating their films....so no choice, if we don't want to editwar and make this very confusing...let's DRAFTitfy this and maybe users can make one or two or three decent pages with redirects and merge of content. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 16:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Even taken all together none of the sources really seem viable for writing either an article about the director or the films. The totality of coverage in independent sources across the articles is the local paper announcement and a review of another film in a maybe-reliable indie source ([36]). signed, Rosguill talk 17:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, maybe, I don't know. But since you draftified the article on the director, I think we should draftify this. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shayna Richardson[edit]

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This is a classic WP:BLP1E, a human interest story from 2005 that got some brief media attention over a few months and then faded from view. The article has always relied on rumour and forum gossip, which was tidied up to some extent five years ago. However, much of the content, which is critical of those involved, is uncited and likely unverifiable using reliable sources. The page has seen repeated BLP violations - I just deleted an edit from earlier this year that made unsupported personal allegations.

This survived an AfD in 2005/6 after being earlier deleted as a libellous copyvio under another title, but times have changed. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shayna Richardson Fences&Windows 18:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

VanGrunsven RV-2[edit]

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Fails GNG, no mention in RS besides passing ones. Is not individually notable beyond its series. Air on White (talk) 18:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Malcolm (composer)[edit]

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Two different Carlos Malcolms, the other of whom invented Ska music, make it hard to source this one. Doesn't seem very notable though. — Iadmc♫talk  18:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Huston Huddleston[edit]

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This subject appears to fall afoul of WP:CRIM, specifically the criminal...should be the subject of a Wikipedia article only if one of the following applies: 1) The victim of the crime is a renowned national or international figure, including, but not limited to, politicians or celebrities; or 2) The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.

I would contend that neither of these conditions is met. I don't think there's any argument that the motivation or execution of the crime itself was unusual or of historic importance, or that the victim was a renowned individual. While it was stated at RFUD that the subject is a high-profile individual, coverage since their fall from grace (i.e. post-2018) is extremely limited, and that which does exist ([37]) suggests that the subject is intentionally avoiding the limelight and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. Following the guidance at Wikipedia:Who is a low-profile individual, I would conclude that Huddleston is a low-profile individual at this time.

Even before the indictment, significant coverage in RS is limited to the context of Hollywood Sci-Fi Museum; if we had an article on that topic (or if the biography of his father Floyd Huddleston, made any mention of Huston and/or we had a source to back up that claim) a redirect outcome would be appropriate, but we don't at this time. signed, Rosguill talk 14:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Floyd Huddleston does mention Huston:
"On December 30, 1965, Huddleston married Nancy Adams, a commercial jingle singer, at the First Baptist Church chapel in Memphis, Tennessee. Huddleston died from a heart attack on September 27, 1991, at a hospital located in Panorama City, Los Angeles. Huddleston was survived by his wife Nancy, his son, Huston, and his mother, Hettye T. Huddleston." Miri1966 (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Please also note that Huston Huddleston has not been avoiding limelight and has been making independent films (hiring underage actresses) which he has posted about on his own social media. It does not seem relevant to include in the article but it is in context for why the article should remain. Miri1966 (talk) 17:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:NOTINHERITED. Angryapathy (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say his notability is due entirely to being Floyd Huddleston's son, only that it is not true that Floyd's biography fails to mention him.
His notability is anchored in his own activities as a writer/director which are ongoing; the museum project which has had numerous news articles and financial campaigns; his conviction which merits documentation as he has continued to work in both listed areas. Miri1966 (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep added a couple articles I don't think this guy deserves an article but he is attempting to open a museum for kids as a convicted pedophile. This is a developing situation in the media with a lot of coverage .Since it is in the public interest and ongoing , I vote keep. Bigwombat (talk) 07:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This is a perfect example of WP:ONEEVENT. The news stories picked it up for a news cycle, and then immediately didn't care about him. He wasn't notable before or after the short flurry of news coverage. Angryapathy (talk) 15:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has been an ongoing event for years between 2018 and 2024 and there are additional news sources that I can provide - additional information may still be pending. This information being captured here has been critical. Miri1966 (talk) 17:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Karvanista[edit]

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Though a decently recurring character in a series of Doctor Who, Karvanista doesn't really have significant coverage. Only sources cited in Reception are routine coverage for Doctor Who (Sources that are basically plot summary explaining who a character is for readers, which is done whenever a new character is introduced/re-introduced into the series) and the only sources findable in a search; beyond Flux, there really isn't anything talking about him in a significant capacity. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nizam's Carnatic campaigns (1725-27)[edit]

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This article is solely based on author's own research and is not supported by any reliable source. Even the sources which the author has used in this article contradicts his claims for example author has used New History of Marathas by Govind Vol2 Pg 85-90 here is the link for book [38], which says there were two campaigns from 1725-26 and 1726-27 both led by Bajirao called "Bajirao's 1st Carnatic Expedition" and "Bajirao's 2nd Carnatic Expedition" the author simply combined those two conflicts kept a name as per his choice which violates Wikipedia guidelines. Also result section has a problem; the same source stated above states a Maratha victory see Pg 85, quoting 1727 April: Karnatik Chiefs submit to Bajirao, so Nizam victory is also inappropriate.Mohammad Umar Ali (talk) 18:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Juan Carlos Figueiras[edit]

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Seems non-notable. I didn't PROD as I'm finding some stuff in Spanish. Only fair to allow people to debate this. — Iadmc♫talk  17:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Variable State[edit]

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Fails company notability and the awards don't appear sufficiently exceptional. One paragraph about the founding, which could be merged. IgelRM (talk) 17:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is an unsatisfactory basis for deletion.
The company is noteworthy and is currently featured prominently in its industry press, as recently as 7 days ago:
https://www.gameinformer.com/news/2024/06/09/polaris-is-a-co-op-pve-shooter-coming-to-pc-this-year-with-fully-destructible
https://www.gematsu.com/2024/06/sci-fi-co-op-shooter-polaris-announced-for-pc
https://www.pcgamesn.com/polaris/new-sci-fi-pve-shooter
The company has been nominated for numerous prestigious awards, including 3 British Academy Game Awards. It is the recipient of a BAFTA for Music and has won the Writers Guild award for Best Writing in a Video Game.
Furthermore, the company remains active, developing and releasing games, and is considerably more active than other similar game companies whose pages are not nominated for deletion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campo_Santo_(company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Sparrow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_Machine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simogo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messhof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Road
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Squid_(company)
My concern is that this nomination for deletion is politically motivated rather than being a genuine suggestion. Deleting this page would be wildly inconsistent with the practice of deleting and updating other video game company pages.
This request for deletion should be cancelled at the earliest opportunity. Badlandssummary (talk) 19:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"My concern is that this nomination for deletion is politically motivated rather than being a genuine suggestion" what a very serious accusation. Do you have any proof to back that up at all or are you just saying that? Procyon117 (talk) 20:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Badlandssummary (talk) 19:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why are you spamming the same thing three times? Procyon117 (talk) 20:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've elected to remove them, as I assume them to be mistaken on the editor's part.

List of Dutch politicians[edit]

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Too broad for a list per WP:SALAT. Category:Dutch politicians by century contains 1,395 articles (per PetScan), while many more would be notable under WP:NPOL. Without any further inclusion/exclusion criteria, this list is bound to be either unhelpfully long or a rather random subset of subjects qualifying. Tristan Surtel (talk) 17:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Eamon Herbst[edit]

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Non-notable business person. WP:SIGCOV and WP:NBIO are not met. The only coverage, which deals with the subject as a primary topic, is this interview piece in the regional Wexford People newspaper. And is a form of WP:INTERVIEW which doesn't contributed to notability. The only other independent coverage I can find are trivial passing mentions like this or this court proceeding. The other "references" in the article are not independent and/or do not support the text regardless. In many cases making NO MENTION WHATEVER of the subject. And representing a form of WP:REFBOMBing. These "references" certainly do not support a claim to notability. (Like this page from the Wicklow County Council website - which makes ZERO mention of the subject and cannot POSSIBLY be read as supporting the text it is placed alongside). The BLPSources and Peacock concerns, raised by Liz, were simply ignored and the tags removed. The other issues (PROMO/COI/PAID/etc) are so obvious and galling that I was initially tempted to consider SPEEDY or PROD. However, discussion and clear community consensus is probably required... Guliolopez (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mint Velvet[edit]

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Non-notable clothing brand. Most coverage discussing the brand is actually coverage of its founder, Liz Houghton. In a brief search I found only two detailed writeups: this piece in Vogue which reads like a press release, and this article indicating the brand was acquired by another company in 2019. What little content is here could easily be merged to Liz Houghton. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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New White Sox Stadium[edit]

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This is a good example of WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. This is one proposal, but it is so early in the process that this article is not warranted. Angryapathy (talk) 15:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep They are still in negotiations with the state of Illinois on the proposal along with the new Chicago Bears stadium. That's why they are categorized under Category:Proposed stadiums in the United States. If nothing becomes of this proposal, then the category on the page changes to Category:Unbuilt stadiums in the United States. That's the whole purpose of these categories... Roberto221 (talk) 18:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The existence of a category doesn't mean any subject that falls under that category gets its own Wikipedia page. WP:N is paramount, not categories. Angryapathy (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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G. B. Singh[edit]

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Non-notable individual. Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:GNG. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gandhi: Behind the Mask of Divinity[edit]

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Book from conspiracy theorists that failed to attract any coverage or reviews. At best it has only received little coverage over disinformation it spread. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. The coverage in the Kansas City Star and The Historian, as well as from other authors, makes it notable. Critical coverage is still coverage. Astaire (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Garbage books that are written specifically for getting attention should attract coverage from more than just 2 twenty years old sources. If this book was published today it would be best fact checked on a fact checking website and we wont count it as coverage towards notability. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 03:17, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gandhi Under Cross Examination[edit]

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Book from conspiracy theorists that failed to attract any coverage or reviews. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Soft keep. I can find two independent sources covering this book: this Vice article and this review in the journal Encounter. (I can find no evidence that the article "New Book Shreds Fabrication of Indian Civil Rights Icon" cited in the book's page actually exists.) Coverage from two independent sources is enough per WP:NBOOK. The journal Encounter does not appear to be very notable, lacking a Wikipedia article. The review's author Rufus Burrow, Jr. seems to be semi-notable but also lacks a Wikipedia article. Astaire (talk) 22:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Astaire. And per the cover image, Hillary v. Gandhi, Obama, et al. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Two sources have been provided above but Vice is an unreliable source for notability. Garbage books that are written specifically for getting attention should attract coverage from just 2 sources. If this book was published today it would be best fact checked on a fact checking website and we wont count it as coverage towards notability. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 03:20, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Party (disambiguation)[edit]

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Does not need to exist — a clear-cut violation of WP:PARTIAL Loytra (talk) 16:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

*Redirect to Mario Party - I think a redirect could be useful since I don't see it would violate WP:G14 since it links to to a disambiguation page or a page that performs a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists). JuniperChill (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC) (Changed to delete, per comment below)[reply]

  • But it's not disambiguating anything though, that's the problem. And why in the world would anyone use that as a search term? Sergecross73 msg me 19:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah yes, I forgot that there are only two articles that could be refered to as 'Mario Party' and the rest, not so much. Changed to Delete JuniperChill (talk)
  • Delete. Not a useful search term, plus not a dab page. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom; all the entries are listed in the main article for the franchise, and most are partial title matches. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 3402[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 16:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 16:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chacha Chaudhary (2019 TV series)[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. It only has one ref. M S Hassan (talk) 16:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Orpin[edit]

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I believe this to be a hoax article. It claims that its subject collaborated with a number of highly popular artists across many different genres of music throughout the 2000s. If this were true, one would expect there to be a sizable amount of information about such an accomplished music industry professional. Unfortunately, very little such information can be found. The only sources I could find about this person that weren't user-generated were a website about names that may post-date the Wikipedia article and a citation from a book published in 2013 that definitely does post-date the article, which was created in 2007. Its creator was a sockpuppet of someone who was indefinitely blocked for "insertion of deliberate misinformation". Suspiciously, the page seems to make an effort to conveniently explain away the lack of documentation on Orpin's existence, asserting that Orpin refused to be credited for the tracks he wrote or produced. Although I am confident that this article is a hoax, I listed it at AfD rather than adding a CSD or PROD tag because Orpin is mentioned on a number of other articles as well, making the article's deletion potentially controversial. SwineHerd (talk/contribs) 16:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I was also unable to find any evidence that this is even a real person. I removed mentions of "Jay Orpin" from articles. toweli (talk) 16:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Also, the first two references in the article can't be found online and aren't even mentioned anywhere on the Internet. The third points to a 404 page now, and looking at archived versions of the webpage on the Wayback Machine reveals it to be a collection of articles about someone named Shane Drake. Orpin is not mentioned. SwineHerd (talk/contribs) 19:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. No mentions in a Swedish media archive which collects most newspapers. No one living in Sweden called Orpin, as far as I can tell. /Julle (talk) 21:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete fails verification. It is unclear whether this is a complete hoax, or an unimportant employee in the music industry; but it would be deleted either way. Walsh90210 (talk) 02:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Melon Dezign[edit]

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources and what's linked in the article doesn't establish notability. There is significant coverage of the group in Freax: The Brief History of the Demoscene, Volume 1 (2005) by Tamás Polgár [hu], but that's only one source of unclear reliability. toweli (talk) 15:48, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bunty Aur Billy[edit]

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Doesn't pass WP:GNG. It has only one ref which is most likely unreliable. M S Hassan (talk) 15:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Class 755[edit]

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After 2 reverts, I have decided to start a discussion on whether class 755 should redirect to British Rail Class 755. The reason is because of the fact most of them searching this term is likely looking for the one in the UK. the pageviews also give a picture, having received over 10x the number of views. The only other topic is Prussian G 8 which is not titled that way so that is why I agree and propose to replace this with a redirect and add a hatnote to the other. This is an example of WP:BLAR - blank and redirect, but others have opposed my change. JuniperChill (talk) 15:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upwave[edit]

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Fails the notability guidelines for companies. Sources are trivial (routine funding announcements), non-independent, or mention the firm only in passing (e.g. for the fact it conducted a survey).

A previous AfD exists under the firm's old name Survata, but the result doesn't seem to hold under modern corporate notability standards: the WSJ source is brief, routine coverage of a funding round, HuffPost is a contributor piece (no editorial oversight) and TechCrunch is... well, TechCrunch. (Yes, I checked for sources under "Survata" as well).

Ordinarily I'd redirect this to List of Y Combinator startups as an alternative to deletion, but given the name change I think it makes the most sense to retarget the existing redirect "Survata" there instead. – Teratix ₵ 14:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chorr Police[edit]

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Doesn't pass WP:GNG. The article lacks significant coverage from multiple reliable, independent sources. It does not offer in-depth analysis or substantial coverage in reputable publications. The references cited do not provide the necessary independent verification of the show's notability. M S Hassan (talk) 14:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 3686[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 14:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 16:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flying Tiger Development[edit]

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Non-notable videogame development company, seemingly, from the limited information I have found, a subcontractor the actual studio hires for certain tasks such as localization. The entire article's sources list consists of links to the company's website and IMDb, and I've been unable to find adequate sourcing to write a better article, so don't think it can be done (feel free to prove me wrong though, I may have missed something!). Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 14:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 1682[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. The claim that It has been extensively researched by NASA isn't supported by the citation given, which is a database maintained by NASA, and is WP:OR/personal opinion of the Wikipedia user. C messier (talk) 14:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Abdul Malek[edit]

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Not a single source used in this article is reliable which can establish notability of the person. - AlbeitPK (talk) 18:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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British Rail DHP1[edit]

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Wholly unsourced article since 2009 Danners430 (talk) 16:29, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: without sources. Nothing came up on Google. RolandSimon (talk) 16:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: There just isn't anything written about this that I can find [39], a photo there, and [40], a magazine that won't open for me... I'd maybe merge this into the list of British locomotives, but it's unsourced regardless. I mean, the information came from somewhere, but we don't have a source identified... Oaktree b (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I can't find any evidence of SIGCOV, and no suitable redirect target seems to exist. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete unfortunately, unless offline sourcing exists (which wouldn't surprise me). I found a couple of sources that were neither in-depth nor reliable which suggest that British Rail Class 17 (on which it was based) would make an appropriate merge target if we can verify the information. Thryduulf (talk) 10:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep or merge British Rail Class 17 or Clayton Equipment Company are the obvious places to look for a mention, but there isn't any there (the latter has a see also, the first has nothing). It's mentioned in the table at List of British Rail modern traction locomotive classes#Builders' demonstrators so that might also be a suitable merge target. Some more googling has found some things that prove existence and verify some of what is in the article:
      • [41] a primary sources, but it verifies it was a "Prototype 1500HP BoBo Diesel Hydraulic", the drawing contains a copyright date which might be useful but I can't read it.
      • [42] indicates that there is a lot more information available from the manufacturer, but being primary that would all speak to verifiability not notability.
      • [43] This copy of a Railways Illustrated article (see PDF page 3) has a small amount of information, and presumably counts as a secondary source.
      • [44] A review of this book indicates that it includes information about the DHP1, but as I don't have a copy I can't say too much.
      • [45] This forum post has some quotes from an article in Classic Diesels and Electrics magazine issue 3 (December 1997/January 1998) described elsewhere as "Major", it also notes that there was at least a drawing in Modern Locomotives Illustrated No 174. I've not been able to find either magazine online. However, combined with the number of models of it that exist, I'm satisified that notability is demonstrated. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      After thinking about this a bit more, I now think that Clayton Equipment Company would be the best place to merge this to as most of the sources frame it in the context the manufacturer, the relationship to Class 17 is limited and not only does the list article not really having anywhere great to put a section of prose it feels a bit undue to have that much detail about an individual entry. As for whether to merge or keep as a stand-alone article, I might be leaning towards the former but I'd not describe either as a clear preference at this point. Thryduulf (talk) 01:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as this is basically unverifiable. Even if it were conclusively proven to exist it would only merit a brief mention within the Class 17 article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 17:40, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think there is any serious doubt that this existed and was based on the Class 17. I haven't found a reliable source that states this but the variety and nature of the unreliable ones I've found leaves me in no doubt. However we do need reliable sources, and while I would be surprised if such didn't exist they haven't been found yet. Thryduulf (talk) 10:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If this conclusively exists, a redirect wouldn't hurt, but the question is where do you redirect it to? I don't think this is mentioned in any other article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:06, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See also my newer comment above, but there is a mention at List of British Rail modern traction locomotive classes#Builders' demonstrators. Thryduulf (talk) 09:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Not a single source provided to support the locomotive's existence. ADifferentMan (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There's a picture of it above in my link, but that's not helping notability. It exists. Oaktree b (talk) 01:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ADifferentMan I provided 5 sources above that prove it exists. It's less clear whether it is notable enough for a stand-alone article, but it's not a slam-dunk no (or yes) and existence is not in doubt. Thryduulf (talk) 01:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: I won't mark this as a vote, because I opened this discussion... going by the lack of engagement alone, I would be inclined to suggest this be closed as a Delete or Merge (as proposed by Thryduulf). We can't keep relisting the AFD forever... Danners430 (talk) 15:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 3[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 14:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of NCAA Division III independents football records[edit]

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Topic is not notable enough for a standalone article, fails WP:NLIST and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. This is a list of records for loosely-related college football team seasons. These teams are "independent" and do not belong to conferences, only joined together because they are in a division of college football together. The text in many of these templates also show up as wikitext because of improper code writing. This list was also created as a way to try avoiding deletion of the individual templates at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 13#Template:2023 NCAA Division III independents football records. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 3971[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 14:04, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 16:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 158[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 13:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination, as it is not notable. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 16:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IC 42[edit]

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The galaxy has only been featured in a small number of databases and large scale surveys which don't provide significant commentary on the object, thus fails WP:NASTCRIT. C messier (talk) 13:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nomination, as it is not notable. ‹hamster717🐉› (discuss anything!🐹✈️ • my contribs🌌🌠) 16:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mahatma Gandhi International School, Ahmedabad[edit]

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NSCHOOL The sources are almost entirely PR-based or non-independent. No actual in-depth coverage in reliable secondary sources, just press releases and blog posts. Wikilover3509 (talk) 13:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Macleod Group[edit]

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Delete Does not meet WP:GNG. Searches are also not yielding anything. Wikilover3509 (talk) 13:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aiden Pearce[edit]

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Unfortunately, after doing WP:BEFORE; I don't see any SIGCOV for this character at all and it mostly relies on game reviews at reception. Detailed issue has been shared at the article's talk page already by other user. I'll suggest it by merging/redirecting it into Watch Dogs (video game). 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 01:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment have you tried merging this into a Characters of Watch Dogs article? Jclemens (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Watch Dogs (video game) exist. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 03:35, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An article for the game itself existing doesn't disqualify the idea of a characters list. Now whether enough coverage for the other characters exists or not is a different story. λ NegativeMP1 15:52, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This wouldn't be a bad idea, but looking at the article of the first game, it looks like Watch_Dogs characters (main or side) are not particularly beloved by critics. I can't even find any specific characters mentioned in that GA outside of its uncited plot section, which really suggests to me that characters of this franchise are not subject to much analysis. I have not done a dive for sources though; if you can find any sources specifically about Watch_Dogs characters, that would be interesting. It seems like a difficult project either way. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: There is news sources showing wider coverage, some of which have been provided on the talk page and are in the process of being incorporated into the article. This is by no means the least notable of it's kind so a deletion discussion so soon seems like a rash decision. This can be, at worst, made into a characters of Watch Dogs article like Jclemens has already suggested.
TheBritinator (talk) 11:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who brought those sources to the talk page, and those aren't WP:SIGCOV, but I understand that you're still quite new to WP:VG's notability. This is not like other fictional characters; when there are reliable sources, it does not mean they are automatically notable, unless the character was really discussed by multiple reliable sources. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per nom. Not seeing any significant coverage here, and the article is primarily sourced entirely to reviews. Not showing independent notability from the subject. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 12:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect – If we disregard GameRant for Notability determinitation (which I believe we should), the only reliable source focused specifically on the character listed here is The Washington Post. Because Aiden Pierce is the lead character of the Watch_Dogs franchise, I think it would be easy to have a complete description of the character there without running into undue weight issues. Criticism of Pierce is criticism of Watch_Dogs as a whole, hence why most of the reliable sources used in this article are full-game reviews. The Appearances section largely recounts the plot of the games (at length, using almost exclusively primary sources, ugh), which also shows the strong overlap. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 08:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Neutral after more sources have been dug up. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per Maplestrip. Someone can always expand on the main character's backstory and reception at the main game article. There isn't so much good coverage that it meets WP:SIGCOV. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • But his hat is so iconic! Redirect per Mable. None of the reliable sources are focused solely on the character, but rather discuss him in the context of a review of the game as a whole. No development info. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:09, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect Per nom - the reception is largely trivial mentions pulled from reviews, rather than discussing him alone as a character. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:18, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Though most above are saying that the article doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV, I found a few articles on the character on numerous sources [46][47][48][49][50][51][52]([53]small section) and theres this short guide from IGN which I'm not sure counts and the GiantBomb one looks like an actual review. MK at your service. 08:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For reference, see Nilin (Remember Me), the character's reception mostly uses the game's reviews, and the appearances section uses lines from the game to reference it. Some articles do exist on the character, which are mentioned in the concept and development section. MK at your service. 08:39, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not really an argument; Nilin could be notable after digging per WP:BEFORE and not because of that game reviews. Comparing other articles isn't helpful. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 08:42, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not sure why are you pulling out more game reviews, plot content-like sources, and unreliable sources/wiki/game guide articles. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 08:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Let's go through these. (1) Game Industry News is currently listed as non-conclusive, and Michael Blaker does not seem particularly experienced. Article praises the character and repeats that he gets "reintroduced" in this novel, but there's nothing else here. (2) ScreenRant I would not count for WP:N. (3) IGN, this looks like a really good one! (4) Tassi on Forbes is a senior contributor, which I think is a good sign? This article is actually about something. (5) GameInformer review with a focus on what Pearce represents and such. (6) Petrick Kepleck (GiantBomb), despite looking like a wiki editor, is indeed a proper reporter. Proper reception and emotional significance on Aiden. (7) NME, I have to be wondering if all this stuff is just part of Watch_Dogs: Legion reception specifically. There's some stuff here but not much. (8) Yahoo review that does not add to WP:N. All-inall, still zero development information, which makes me hesitant, but there's a lot more here. Shame none of it was used. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IGN is more like a game-guide content;but there's no need to expound more since its not gonna survive AfD. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 07:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    IGN does both, and it's important to separate the articles from the gameguides from the user-generated stuff. Joe Skrebels seems to have been a professional news editor at IGN. Confusingly, when I open this article, it redirects me to a Dutch translation with a different author. Annoying, but the effort of translation may suggest that IGN considers this a good article. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:46, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, I think I worded it incorrectly oops. I mean't the IGN that was brought up here as a sourcd not IGN in General is just making game guide content. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 07:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Jumping in here, but Forbes contributors like Tassi are generally recommended not to use as Forbes doesn't apply editorial oversight to their works. Tassi also has some infamy in journalistic circles which doesn't help.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per Maplestrip. The above also isn't convincing me, given it's mainly reviews and valnet. And normally I like Valnet but you need some meat to go with it.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 23:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Most redirect !votes seem to be at least partially based on None of the reliable sources are focused solely on the character. That, however, is explicitely not required to establish notability according to WP:SIGCOV: Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Of course something meaningful and fitting for an encyclopedia on the article's subject still needs to be contained in those secondary sources with a different main topic like e.g. the game as a whole. Daranios (talk) 15:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep We already have a reasonable reception section without regress to Valnet sources, thus the article in its current form already fullfills WP:WHYN and therefore WP:N, even though the plot probably needs trimming to balance. In addition we have the Vice web article, which incidentally does have Aiden Pearce as its main topic, and more secondary sources have been listed and sorted above. Again, some of the do have the character as the main topic. In addition, there's a brief paragraph of commentary on Aiden Pearce in this academic publication. Daranios (talk) 15:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Vice is the only situational source that could be a bit decent. However, I don't think we already have a "reasonable reception section" because of article being bloated with game reviews and plenty of game-guide content? 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 18:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
About being bloated, I guess we agree that the plot summary content currently is not balanced with the reception section. But that's a problem that can be solved by normal editing and is therefore not a reason for deletion. And we do have a reception section which in my view does not consist of game-guide content. The fact that the sources making up the reception section are mostly game reviews does not invalidate their use, as the content which has been taken from them here is direct commentary on the character, i.e. the topic of the article. Daranios (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • My own !vote has moved to "neutral" after more sources were dug up, but I still think the sources are weak. I would like to know if @Shooterwalker: and @Axem Titanium: still think so too, as per the relisting comment. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:44, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm still staying by redirect as my vote. I feel the subject matter on its own is too weak, and there's really nothing here that can't be discussed in the body of the main article. While there are some characters with single game appearances, one needs to consider if what's being said illustrates them separate of that work or not, and that's not being indicated here.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 00:24, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chronos (pretrained model)[edit]

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Written like a advertisement, no RS found. MarkTechPost that is linked in the article is a AI media platform which would land it squarely in unreliability land. Sohom (talk) 11:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Filled with techno-words, I'm still not sure what this is or what it does. Regardless, there are two hits, the one used in the article and another PR item. Delete for lack of sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 12:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete Completely promotional, lacking sources, and manages to still be pretty vague despite an impressive amount of jargon. No RS to be seen. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 12:39, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LNER Class Y11[edit]

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Article tagged as unsourced, and indeed is unsourced, since 2015. Propose merging into another suitable article, as this doesn't appear to meet notability requirements - a search doesn't yield any reliable sources. Danners430 (talk) 11:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Sources don't need to be online (and did you check the LNER Encyclopedia link?). I'm not at home right now, but I'm certain that there is information in several books, such as Boddy, M.G.; Fry, E.V.; Hennigan, W.; Hoole, Ken; Mallaband, Peter; Neve, E.; Price, J.H.; Proud, P.; Yeadon, W.B. (April 1990). Fry, E.V. (ed.). Locomotives of the L.N.E.R., part 10B: Railcars and Electric Stock. Lincoln: RCTS. ISBN 0-901115-66-5.. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If those are sources, then perfect - makes perfect sense to have them! Unfortunately I don’t have access to them, nor did I know of their existence… and they weren’t in the article anywhere hence the AfD. Would make sense to add them as sources and close this! Danners430 (talk) 18:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thue (programming language)[edit]

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Unsourced, non-notable, one of hundreds if not thousands of esolangs. wound theology◈ 07:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Most of the content of the article appears to be from the esolang wiki article, and that's the only non-primary mention of it I could find online (And even then, only through the external links section, a quick internet search returned no english-language results). Fails WP:GNG for me. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong)

Chapter Four Uganda[edit]

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An article that doesn't meet WP:ORGCRIT. The sources were solely based or more about the founders arrest. Hence if this is going to be beneficial, I would consider redirecting to Nicholas Opiyo. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Angara Airlines Flight 200[edit]

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Per WP:NOTNEWS. The majority of sources constitute those of primary sources with a lack of reliable secondary sources. The event does not have in-depth coverage with a failure of continued coverage with lasting effects having not been demonstrated. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep this is not the best article, but there are clearly sources on the Russian language article showing sustained coverage of this fatality-causing incident. SportingFlyer T·C 12:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The russian article on Angara Airlines Flight 200 has been nominated for deletion since 2021 with those three sources talking about the heroic actions of the flight attendant. I don't mind including this in the article but there needs to be more coverage talking about the accident for a sustained amount of time for the accident to be considered notable.

    "of this fatality-causing incident."

    Per the event criteria, criterion #4, Routine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance.
    There doesn't seem to be much that would give this accident, whilst tragic, additional enduring significance. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 12:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I completely disagree with you. Whether something is notable on another Wikipedia does not matter. We usually keep articles on fatal commercial plane crashes, and those articles in the Russian article discuss the flight attendant being honoured by Putin, so a big deal, and retrospectives in Russian such as [54]. SportingFlyer T·C 13:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia has deleted fatal aviation accidents involving commercial airliners. "Usually keep" doesn't always mean "keep" unless something gives the accident enduring significance.
    You mention the flight attendant but what makes the accident notable in itself? The article fails multiple guidelines for a stand-alone article. In my opinion, there isn't enough that gives this accident enduring significance that would warrant a standalone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 14:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The death of the flight crew in normal passenger aviation combined with the lasting coverage of the event through the honouring of the flight attendant clearly gets it over the bar. SportingFlyer T·C 17:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The community has a longstanding consensus that the crash of a regularly-scheduled commercial passenger flight resulting in a total hull loss, fatalities, significant impacts aside from the crash of the aircraft, and/or long-term regulatory changes meets notability standards. RecycledPixels (talk) 16:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you link an established consensus on this matter?
You're saying that the accident resulted in long term effects, changes in regulations but I haven't been able to find those. Could you explain where you're coming from? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AIRCRASH is not policy and it specifically recommends not being used at AfD. That being said, it absolutely does reflect how we tend to assess these sorts of articles for deletion, and is referenced over 800 times. SportingFlyer T·C 17:35, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then it is being referenced over 800 times incorrectly. As you said, WP:AIRCRASH is not a policy, so actual policy based arguments take precedence over essays. I don't see much evidence of this essay being thoroughly supported by the community. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not being used incorrectly. It's been mentioned at several AfDs recently and is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Air Senegal Flight 301 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rimbun Air de Havilland DHC-6 Twin Otter Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RA-78804 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 SkyJet Elite Astra crash and you yourself used it in March here to delete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/United Airlines Flight 35. You can't have it both ways... SportingFlyer T·C 21:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes and I used it incorrectly. I was told on another AfD to not use it as it was an essay which I have not since. As for the other Afds linked, just because they're used doesn't mean it's being correctly used. I can't speak for the others but let me remind you that consensus was quite clear cut in the others so arguments mentioning WP:AIRCRASH probably were not given too much value. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 23:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, there's an "and/or" in that sentence. So one or more of the items in that list. RecycledPixels (talk) 21:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My question still stays. [...] and long-term regulatory changes / [...] or long-term regulatory changes, it doesn't matter since it's being mentioned. Why mention it in the first place if it's being discarded and not going to be elaborated on? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 00:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kanchan Gupta[edit]

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Non notable journalist, articles depend on totally one reference, fails WP:GNG. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 10:52, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

M-T pronouns[edit]

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Almost exclusively from a single source, and fails to establish WP:N. Practically zero mention of the concept outside of that single source and veers dangerously into WP:PROFRINGE territory with the WP:OR links to fringe theory language families like Nostratic, which aren't mentioned in the source. Without establishing notability this seems to not really belong here, and I'm unable to verify that this is at all taken seriously in linguistics.

For anyone unfamiliar with this topic:

"The M-T pattern is the most common argument for several proposed long-distance language families, such as the Nostratic hypothesis, that include Indo-European as a subordinate branch. Nostratic has even been called 'Mitian' after these pronouns."

Nostratic is emphatically a fringe theory within linguistics and is not mentioned in any of the sources, and this article seems heavily like WP:ADVOCACY. Any sources linking Nostratic to M-T Pronouns are inherently fringe sources, but even then many of the claims here are entirely un-cited. It doesn't seem this article can be saved. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 09:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Feels like Original Research to me. Only two sources though the Google search gives plenty sources. Whether they back up the article and are reliable or not I have no idea. Not my field — Iadmc♫talk  10:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    I'm not advocating for Nostratic. This is simply a piece of evidence claimed by those who do, and Nostratic has been deemed appropriate for a WP article.
    As noted, the M-T pronominal pattern is well attested in the lit. I relied on a single source to create the article, but others could be added.
    Some conclusions drawn from the pattern, such as Nostratic, are FRINGE. Yet we have articles on them. WALS is most certainly not a fringe source. IMO it's worth discussing one of the principal pieces of evidence given for fringe hypotheses when we have articles on them. A similar pattern in America, N-M, has been used to justify the FRINGE hypothesis of Amerind. Yet it is discussed in non-fringe sources, which conclude that it's only statistically significant for western North America, and disappears as a statistical anomaly if we accept the validity of Penutian and Hokan. That's worth discussing, because it cuts the legs out from under Amerind; without it, people might find the argument for Amerind to be convincing.
    I have yet to find a credible explanation for the M-T pattern. But the lack of an explanation for a phenomenon is not reason to not cover it. There are many things we can't convincingly explain, but that's the nature of science: we don't refuse to cover them. — kwami (talk) 11:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ seems to be motivated to object to this because they think I have a PROFRINGE statement on my user page. What I have is a sarcastic statement, one that other WP linguists have laughed over because it is obviously ridiculous. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ fails to see the sarcasm.
    An equivalent might be to say that our personalities are governed by Arcturus, which is in Gemini; therefore we're all Geminis and have share a single hive mind. That wouldn't be advocacy for astrology. (Though I'm sure people have come up with more imaginative ways of mocking it.) — kwami (talk) 12:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It’s not exactly obvious sarcasm when you’re making articles that advocate the perspectives of fringe theorists, but sorry if I missed that. It wasn’t my intention to have it sound like an attack. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 12:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not advocating the perspectives of fringe theorists, I'm describing a pattern that they have used to justify their theories. I've done the same for Amerind; there the conclusion is that if we accept Penutian and Hokan as valid clades, then the statistical anomaly (and thus the purported evidence for Amerind) disappears. I don't know of any similar conclusion in this case, but the pattern remains and is worth discussing if we're going to have articles on Nostratic and the like (and we have quite a few of those articles!)
    What comes off as advocacy to me is covering FRINGE theories in multiple articles and then refusing to discuss the evidence, when consideration of that evidence would cast doubt on the theories. That would be like refusing to discuss the evidence posited for astrology or UFOs, leaving readers with only the perspective of advocates to go by. — kwami (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is WP:Original research, by your own words, and has no place in the encyclopedia. Use a blog to promote your personal research. Delete — Iadmc♫talk  12:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Nostraticists have a long and storied history of claiming basically anything they can as evidence. These claims aren’t taken seriously among linguists for good reason. I’m unaware of a single piece of scholarship that’d pass WP:RS (or even not those that’d pass) claiming this as evidence for Nostratic, and frankly I find your accusations here inappropriate so I’ll bow out of engaging and let the rest of the AfD play out. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 12:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment I'm speaking as a non-expert, but I would like to get more context on the matter. Do such patterns, outside of advocating for certain theories, have any value? Could, for example, there be a place in the Nostratic article to add a few more of these details to the Proposed features section? I'm not familiar with the sources in the article, what is their reputation generally? AnandaBliss (talk) 16:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As far as credible sources go, which is just the one page linked as the main source in the article, it's a statistically noted feature but no signifficance has yet been attributed to it. Certainly not to Nostratic. Nostratic is itself a fringe theory and likely doesn't need more on the proposed features as none of the proposed features are real, and nobody is proposing a link to Nostratic because of this as far a sourcing goes except the author of the article and perhaps some blogs. This article has, frankly, some big "teach the controversy" energy.
    @Austronesier is a little less viscerally anti-Nostratic-on-wikipedia and may have a different perspective, however. Also, I think this should probably be my last reply here lest I WP:BLUDGEON.
    Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 16:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, or probably expand and modify its scope to include the other notable pronoun pattern (N-M) along the lines of the WALS page cited in the article. As is, it is underreferenced, but we can easily get more sources by following the trail of Johanna Nichols's paper on this subject and subsequent papers by other scholars who take a typological look at the matter. Sure, this pronoun pattern is cited as evidence by Nostraticists, but they don't own the topic. Yet, you can hardly leave Lord Voldemort, uhm I mean Nostratic unmentioned in relation to this notable topic, because most mainstream linguist writing about the topic of global pronoun patterns will at least mention the fact that Nostraticists have tried to build a language relationship hypothesis out this real observable. You can't blame observables for the bad and motorious hypotheses that are made to explain them.
Finally, this is not advocacy, and to believe so earns you a megatrout, @Warren. Kwami has built literally hundreds of language family and subgroup articles in WP from a mainstream perspective, generally leaning towards a "splitter" approach (ala Hammarström or Güldemann). Ok, unfamiliarity with kwami's role in this project is one thing, but jeez, labelling an important piece of Nichols's research as fringe just because of an indirect association to the Nostratic hypothesis is a knee jerk that makes the knee jerks in WP:FTN look like an élevé. –Austronesier (talk) 20:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For all the "delete" !votes because of WP:OR issues, there's WP:NOTCLEANUP. Here's more sources covering the topic:
  1. "Selection for m : T pronominals in Eurasia"[55] by Johanna Nichols (co-author of the WALS chapter)
  2. "Personal pronouns in Core Altaic"[56] by Juha Janhunen
Needless to say that these book chapters do not promote or endorse long-range fringe speculations. –Austronesier (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment This is definitely original research. The article presents this as related to Nostratic and Etruscan language families, neither of which are mentioned in the source the article is based on. A lot of the article needs to get deleted, probably. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. At the very least, this is a non-notable topic propped up by a healthy dose of OR. There's a single source for the main article topic along with who-knows-how-much-personal-observation in the article currently, such as "However, doubling the number of pronouns to be considered in this way increases the possibility of coincidental resemblance, and decreases the likelihood that the resulting pattern is significant." Where does this come from? Where does any of these statistical conclusions come from? It's not in the source. This is a pretty concerning case and may warrant further scrutiny. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 21:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree that this isn't a fringe theory, but it does seem hard to find secondary sources on. Keep assuming any other secondary sources exist. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, make that Delete unless at least one more secondary source can be identified, after looking at the article again. Almost all of it is not based on the source it actually uses, and it seems difficult to write an article given nobody seems to have any other sources than that one. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saturday Live (British TV program)[edit]

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This article was created in 2009 by a user who hasn't edited since then. According the article itself, it was a two hour long show that ran from 2005 to 2011. A WP:BEFORE search would appear to indicate some questions about whether this purported Sky News show actually ever happened. WP:NTV would appear to be applicable here. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hoopla Software[edit]

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Fails the notability guidelines for companies. PROD removed by IP editor claiming "I could find sources" without actually adding any sources. – Teratix ₵ 07:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tardza Project[edit]

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The three pages Tardza Project, Criollo_Project and CarBone (company) are not written appropriately for Wikipedia, and have very marginal notability at best. I tagged them on NPP, but the editors have made no attempt to improve them. I am therefore doing a AfD, this one is the worst and I see no reason it can meet WP:N Ldm1954 (talk) 08:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Toghtua Bukha[edit]

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Contested prod. Uncited. Celia Homeford (talk) 07:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. Cannot find any sources on GBooks, Google (except for WP mirror content), Archive.org, or anywhere else that turns up any result at all for any of the romanization options given or Hangul/Hanja script provided. I doubt it's a WP:HOAX, but I think we can safely delete if no sources to validate notability can be found 20 years since this article was created. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep. I removed the PROD after finding plenty of sources on this individual especially in Korean. This is most likely due to the various different spellings of his name. Here in this Korean translation of the Goryeosa [1] published by the National Institute of Korean History he is listed as both "독타불화" and "톡타부카". Individual has Encyclopedia of Korean Culture article [2] as well as a Doosan Encyclopedia article [3] both listed as "왕독타불화". He also appears in Empire's Twilight: Northeast Asia under the Mongols by David M. Robinson as "Toqto'a-Buqa" as well as in Korea and the Fall of the Mongol Empire also by Robinson. ⁂CountHacker (talk) 17:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Institute of Materials, Minerals and Mining[edit]

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Unclear sources demonstrate notability. Most contributions to this article are from connected contributors, as noted on talk page. -- Beland (talk) 07:07, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep By definition learned societies lead research and thinking in their field, publish the authoritative journals, and have all leading figures in their fellowships. There is rarely going to be a plethora of third party sources as there might be for k-pop stars, Pokémon or footballers. Nevertheless a quick search brought up 1, 2 and 3. Mccapra (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shelving engineering[edit]

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The phrase "shelving engineering" returns zero google results beyond the name of one particular company. This appears just to be a random miscellaneous thing (shelving) that might need to be engineered, like a zillion other forms of "engineering" with no particular name. EEng 06:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Can't find any sources talking about "shelving engineering" whatsoever and even if there were sources they could be easily added under Shelf, which has plenty of space and is not a long article. Would vote "Merge" except for the lack of significant content or references. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3Roam[edit]

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Likely to fail WP:NCORP. KH-1 (talk) 06:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Possible COI editing, given that the initial draft of the article was just a copy-paste of press release. See the initial version and look at the last paragraph here. Also, their about page actually links to the Wikipedia article to "learn more", which is unlikely if they didn't write it themselves. However, someone does actually have to do the WP:NCORP checking. If anyone is trying to figure out what this company actually is the archived version of their website is much more helpful than the current one. It appears they've now become a mass-article publishing website trying to do tech support. The article is out of date. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless anyone is able to find reliable sources, which I am not Mrfoogles (talk) 20:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Clayton Brown[edit]

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Olympic rower who did not receive a medal and does not meet either Olympic notability for athletes who received medals or general notability based on significant coverage. The only reference is a database entry. Heymann criterion is to find significant coverage within seven days and expand this stub.

Himanshu Sharma[edit]

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Failes WP:GNG, WP:PRODUCER. Nothing special found any search engine! Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 05:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: Fairly meets WP:CREATIVE with at least 8 credits as writer of notable films. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC) +significant awards that have him meet WP:ANYBIO + coverage that seems to have him meet GNG....[reply]
    The current sourcing is not very good, though. All that's there are two or three short articles with maybe two paragraphs describing him between them, a social media announcement, and an IMDB profile. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe if you count the IMDB profile as one source, and one/multiple of the news articles as another? Mrfoogles (talk) 20:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This writer has received at least 2 nationally significant awards, which is sourced + meets WP:CREATIVE for his multiple credits as writer (also sourced), so I am leaving it at that, as I consider the requirement for notability is met. two or three short articles with maybe two paragraphs describing him between them may be considered a description of significant coverage. Thanks. Just added 2 sources. Feel free to remove ImDb. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Melody & Harmony[edit]

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Not yet notable per WP:BAND, with no significant coverage in reliable secondary sources, just a few album reviews on music blogs. Wikishovel (talk) 05:37, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AREA (fashion label)[edit]

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Possible failure of WP:NCORP some of the claims are Celebrity X wore it here. Also the others seem to be puff pieces and nothing substantial Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep The subject has received widespread coverage since 2019. Meets GNG and WP:NCORP- look at the Women’s Wear Daily coverage. Thriley (talk) 12:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep: The NY Times article is about more than just what Taylor Swift wore.We likely have GNG with the NYT and the Women's Wear article. Oaktree b (talk) 14:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep, I don't know about the full uppercased title, but deletion seems improbable given the sources mentioned above (and per Taylor Swift, who might not agree that it should be lowercased). Randy Kryn (talk) 15:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Leaning toward delete at the moment. I removed a couple egregiously inappropriate statements of the "so-and-so wore something to this event" variety. Even discounting those, though, mainly what I'm seeing is stuff in trade publications, which are kind of suspect in terms of demonstrating notability. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I restored those sources. You should be discussing article improvements on the talk page not in the middle of an AfD which is topic-based ie. is this topic notable for inclusion on Wikipedia. -- GreenC 18:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Its an article in the New York Times about the company. Really unsure why you would remove that. Did you even look at the cited article? Thriley (talk) 18:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rheji Burrell[edit]

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I am not sure how this article looked back in 2012 when the first AfD came about, but now the article is confusing because it doesn't seem to know whether it wants to be about Mr. Burrell alone or about him and his brother. At any rate, the article discusses a non-notable production team(?) whose own discography hasn't seen them ever having charted; and the list of albums that they supposedly produced for other artists isn't sourced. It doesn't help that the article reads like the brothers themselves wrote it. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 04:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Voskos Greek Yogurt[edit]

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This was previously deleted, then re-created. Nothing seems to have changed to establish notability. The article cites four sources but the 1st, 3rd and 4th are press releases, on trade blogs that will publish anything about products. The 2nd is a very trivial mention. None of these would seem to establish notability under WP:CORP. Might be eligible for speedy deletion as a recreation of deleted content, but I can't view what was deleted and it was a long time ago. Here2rewrite (talk) 03:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete. All available sources are press releases (and other primary sources), WP:TRADES publications for the dairy/packaged foods industries that do not qualify for WP:NCORP, and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in online reviews of yogurts. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:47, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I can only find PR items and trade journal mentions of this product. Agree that what's used now in the article isn't enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 12:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gert Dippenaar[edit]

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Redirect to List of Namibian first-class cricketers as I am unable to find enough coverage to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 03:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conquest of Hadoti[edit]

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Another "Conquest of X" article with 2-3 lines of passing mention: "In the battle that took place at Maholi many Hadas were killed and their families were brought to Mandu. The fort was handed over to Qadam Khan." Clearly it fails SIGCOV, not enough coverage to warrant a standalone article. Based.Kashmiri (🗨️) 10:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment: I found this, which has a whole page dedicated to the subject at page 122. Also search on Google Scholar locates "Sharma, R.K., 1985. MILITARY SYSTEM OF THE KOTA STATE (C-1250 to 1947 AD). Скорина и скориниана, 13, p.65." I can't view the second one so I can't get any comment on how much content is devoted to the subject. TarnishedPathtalk 11:17, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @TarnishedPath that is the whole different event around 1436. The whole page except the last para deals with the conquest of Hadoti by Rana Kumbha, It's the only last para of 4 lines which covers relevant content:
    The political situation soon changed, when Mahmud Khilji came to throne in Malwa, He had undertaken several expeditions to bring Hadoti under his sphere of influence. Kumbha adopted a successful policy to give sufficient support to the Hadas against the invasions of the Sultan of Malwa. And that too doesn't describe the outcome. As I said it fails SIGCOV and it's just a meagre part of a different event. Based.Kashmiri (🗨️) 13:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You're making an argument for updating the article, not deleting it. TarnishedPathtalk 13:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No I'm not. What I meant is that the given source is completely unrelated to this event which happened in 1459 not 1436 per above given source. Based.Kashmiri (🗨️) 15:20, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete, It is clearly a POV article focusing on establishing the dominance of the Malwa Sultanate over the Kingdom of Mewar. The article does not have proper detail of events, and the WP:RS does not have enough mentioning of events like how the seige went and how the fort was conquered. Rawn3012 (talk) 11:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please describe how the article fails NPOV. TarnishedPathtalk 14:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, concerns that don't raise to the level of HOAX but seriously concerning stuff in regards to notability, NPOV, and wikipuffery that mean this article is not encyclopedic. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 20:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Russell Johnstone[edit]

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. The supplied sources are all primary. LibStar (talk) 00:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • What's wrong with the Equestrian Life story? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Is that a WP:PRIMARY source? A mainstream media source would be better for establishing notability. LibStar (talk) 20:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    How is it primary? It looks like an independent secondary news outlet devoting a story to him. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The only thing I can think of is that there is no author listed (it just says by Equestrian Life), but I agree it appears to be a usable source for notability purposes. Hopefully LibStar can elaborate on what they mean. Let'srun (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I think I see the issue. It appears that it is a paid promotional piece, since at the bottom of the article there is a note which says " This article was written in conjunction with Barastoc". Barastoc is a sponsor of the subject's team. In that case, the article lacks independence. Let'srun (talk) 14:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2023 Anantnag encounter[edit]

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WP:NOTNEWS, counterterrorism/counterinsurgency such as this are not uncommon in the long running Insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir (part of the broader Kashmir conflict). I am not seeing from the sources how this is notable as a standalone or any lasting significance of it. Gotitbro (talk) 23:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I am not disputing what the nominator says, but our threshold for acceptance is not commonality or lasting significance but widespread coverage in reliable sources. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    With events, lasting significance is very much a factor, which I think this fails. An event can get a lot of reliable coverage at the time, but without lasting significance, it is usually deleted at AfD. PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:45, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Routine news coverage of Insurgency in Kashmir region are not sufficient basis to warrant this page. No significance of this newsworthy event to qualify for inclusion. RangersRus (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It was notable at that time and it is notable today as well. The article has to be updated and content about NIA charging the individuals involved in this incident on 16 March 2024 should be included. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 02:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - mostly routine coverage, and it appears the article has copyvio problems (as per my tagging today). Maybe needs a more general page with the history of this and similar insurgency operations? Mdann52 (talk) 05:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: as per Hawkeye7, also article need to clean up! Thank you. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Labingi[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG seems like an list disambiguation. Both articles link to each other in the lead. Could possible be redirected to Westron language? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment Appears to be real, but so trivial as to not merit a mention in Bilbo's article as it stands now. Is there more context to these supposed names that would fill out a stub, or another article that explains the context here? Jclemens (talk) 04:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep, certainly real and readily sourced, and a reminder that we should certainly make more of Westron names, in fact the whole language, throughout the WikiProject. The prime concern across the project has been notability, given that there was a large legacy of what seemed to be fan-created articles with (at best) primary sourcing. Now that that's been fixed, looking at the development of names and of characters, all the legendarium side of things, is an obvious next step: i.e. we should add the "Labingi" element to many articles. I'd hope it'd go without saying that you can't decide notability by looking at Wikipedia's gaps, but perhaps that's worth repeating here. Tolkien devoted enormous effort to the names in multiple languages, complete with Pseudotranslation from Westron to English; scholars are starting to catch up with these legendarium (Silmarillion without italics) aspects, so there is potentially large scope for article improvement in this direction. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question Judging from the description in Template:Surname and many examples I see, it seems that name pages do work differently with regard to notability requirements as compared to "normal" articles. They seem to be more or less a special type of disambiguation page. Is that correct? Daranios (talk) 15:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manyiel Wugol[edit]

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I don’t see how this subject article is notable. Not by anyway meeting the WP:GNG. On the reference section number 5. Instagram reels cannot be use as a source. His just an upcoming basketball player yet to gain fame and notability that meets the general notability guideline. Even the biography there’s no reference to back them up after making my research on Google. Gabriel (talk to me ) 02:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Atala T[edit]

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Sorry, another company blatantly failing the notability guidelines for companies that is ineligible for PROD because this 2007 AfD exists. – Teratix ₵ 02:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Fails WP:NCORP with absolutely no sources on this subject. Looks like the original creator just recreated the deleted article 15 years ago and no one noticed until now. Better late than never. Dclemens1971 (talk) 08:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete WP:CORPDEPTH. A search of the company name brings up no relevant information or coverage (other than the wiki article itself). ADifferentMan (talk) 02:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Half the sources are deadlinks and the other don't contain the company's name, clearly not notable enough. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 11:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

B. C. Janardhan Reddy[edit]

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PROD contested without improvement. Does not meet WP:NPOL as a district level official. Only 1 source, which does not have WP:SIGCOV on him. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 01:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep as a member of an Indian state legislature he definitely does pass NPOL and as he’s also a state minister there’s really no question about it. Mccapra (talk) 06:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is the page about a person took Oath as Cabinet Minister of Andhra Pradesh on 12th June 2024[1][2][3]

Wikipedia & other editors , this not illegial matter, it is very useful to the viewers. They can know who is this particular Minister

The photo of this person is already existed in Wikimedia commons. So I created this page.

So Wikipedia and editors please don't delete this & please don't nominate for deletion.🙏

Philip Daniel Bolden[edit]

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Non notable. Minor roles. Bedivere (talk) 01:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitri Kurakin[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the senior-level national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. PROD removed without explanation. Not to be confused with Dmitry Kurakin, sociology professor at Yale University. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgsu98: multiple Estonian champion at senior-level championships, see [65] Estopedist1 (talk) 06:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: although he did win medals at Estonia's Skating Champs I am tempted to still vote keep given there are no independent RSs on this guy. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 22:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: User:Estopedist1 are you arguing to Keep this article? I can't tell.
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Al Basil High School for Superiors[edit]

Al Basil High School for Superiors (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails notability. Similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al-Bassel High School for Outstanding Students Quick-ease2020 (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Terry Long (white supremacist)[edit]

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I could not find in-depth coverage. He ran for public office but does not meet WP:NPOL nor WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 00:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ https://ntvtelugu.com/news/andhrapradesh-cabinet-ministers-taken-oath-today-613936.html
  2. ^ https://ddnews.gov.in/en/tdp-supremo-chandrababu-naidu-sworn-in-as-andhra-pradesh-cm-in-presence-of-pm-modi/
  3. ^ https://www.ndtv.com/andhra-pradesh-news/andhra-pradesh-pawan-kalyan-among-25-ministers-to-take-oath-with-chandrababu-naidu-5871149
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