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Merger of the article into main Urdu article[edit]

The Urdu language has a wide and diverse group of fluent speakers, just like Hindi. The article, Urdu-speaking people complicates things instead of being useful, as there is no ethnic or ethnolingusitic group of Urdu-speakers as they are wide spread diverse group of people with various ethnic and regional identities. I suggest the merger of Urdu-speaking people article into this article, its situation is exactly like Hindi's, whose speakers do not form an ethnic or regional identity as other neighbouring regions. PeoplesRepublicOfChina01 (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The merger has been completed and a new sub page has been added to this article. PeoplesRepublicOfChina01 (talk) 12:29, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I've reverted it. It can't be done unilaterally. An WP:RFC is needed or at least a consensus in the well-advertised talk page proposal and then a RM. It take at least a month if not more. You can't make a hurried post and merge the page Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:09, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Except that Urdu speaking people most definitely see themselves as a coherent identity. 39.41.209.33 (talk) 07:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
They see themselves as Muslims, not Urdu speakers. Other than that they identify as Punjabis, Pashtuns, Balochis, etc. 178.120.11.225 (talk) 17:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Urdu speakers are called Muhajirs in Pakistan. عُثمان (talk) 11:46, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dialects[edit]

Does Urdu have same dialects as hindi or different? Kaiyr (talk) 12:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kaiyr Same. Braj is described as a dialect of Urdu in Pakistan, and Haryanvi and Bihari are called Urdu by many just as they are called Hindi by many in India. Standard Urdu and Standard Hindi are the same dialect of the same dialect of the same language (Khari Boli). عُثمان (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changes[edit]

I'm restoring my version because of the following:

PepperBeast (talk) 14:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC) And now, I'm restoring my version because of the following:[reply]

PepperBeast (talk) 13:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any WP:RS regarding Urdu being spoken in Afghanistan?[edit]

Urdu/Hindustani is a language a small minority people in Afghanistan might be fluent in due to being refugees in Pakistan and Bollywood; however, it is not an actual spoken language in Afghanistan.

Is there any WP:RS that Urdu is spoken in Afghanistan, not just understood? It does not belong to lede, and should be edited to be clear it’s not a spoken language like Dari Persian, Pashto, Uzbek, Turkmen and other languages of Afghanistan. 2600:1700:158F:A900:4158:88E6:ECAE:69DF (talk) 00:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am seeing an absolute conflict between two parts....[edit]

Ordu is first thought to be used around 1780 by a poet and a outsider saying in 1777 orduzabain is what ots called by locals. You don't see a word coined getting popular just in a while. Sources conflict, second source has more credibility because: 1. It's possible it came late into litrature Yaverjavid (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]