Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/God Bless the USA

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The result of the debate was keep. —Korath (Talk) 01:39, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

God Bless the USA[edit]

Copyright violation - Scooter 07:33, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting, because America the Beautiful has lyrics. Does the person who wrote them have to be dead for so long to use or even post them? -- Riffsyphon1024 07:39, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Read up on the history of lyrics.ch. RickK 07:58, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
  - 75 years for US material, I believe. Chris 15:20, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    - More like 95. For rough purposes, 1923 is the dividing line. Before 1923: probably OK. 1923: assume it's verboten unless there's some good reason to think otherwise. One good guide is here. And song lyrics are very sensitive, more so than other material. You'll notice that novels are very punctilious about obtaining permission for quotations from song lyrics even when it's just a line or two that's being quoted. I'm really shocked that someone put in the lyrics to God Bless America. Dpbsmith (talk) 16:12, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
After refreshing my mind at Wikipedia:Lyrics, I agree that the lyrics should be deleted but the text above can stay. -- Riffsyphon1024 08:24, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
After having deleted the lyrics, there is nothing in the article. Delete. Rick K 08:38, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Patriotic song in wide play, especially after the Iraq war in 1991 and 9/11. Mike H 09:13, Mar 25, 2005 (UTC)
Delete, stubby article with very little potential for growth. Megan1967 10:20, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep, notable patriot song. Kappa 12:34, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep, since it is a song that was heavily played, so is it's original author. Zscout370 15:29, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Note: I have updated the page a bit, added a link. What do yall think? Zscout370 16:23, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Notable song with some historical context and now that the lyrics have been removed (adding an external link to them was a good idea) I see no reason for deletion. Could use some expansion since the song was around long before 9/11. 23skidoo 17:06, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Godawful song, but worth keeping as rewritten. Seems to meet my personal criteria for songs. Do we need to delete the lyrics from the page history though? -R. fiend 22:22, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- No idea about the lyrics, though there are two links that have lyrics to them. Its the admin's call. Zscout370 22:46, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. ComCat 01:57, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Awful song, but undeniably notable. Jgm 23:23, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Weak keep. It's jingoistic schlock, but very notable. I still have concerns about copyvio, though. Binadot 16:33, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Well, once this page is voted on, we should look at it and see what is copyvio or not. Zscout370 17:14, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep this awful song. Notable bit of American, um, culture. Dpbsmith (talk) 02:01, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. This is still relevant, and hence more relebant than the Horst Wessel Lied. Ruhrjung 16:04, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: The Horst Wessel Lied is still relevant, in my POV. Zscout370 16:47, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep As a pop culture item, this song has remained important for twenty years, and is still an important part of American culture in 2005. The removal of the lyrics have removed the copyright concern. I find the reference adequate for a short entry. -- Glen Finney 19:27, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Keep. So long as no copyvio lyrics are posted, jingoanthem belongs in the encyclopedia. -- 8^D ^gab 02:14, 2005 Mar 30 (UTC)

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