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John Jay Article[edit]
Hey, I don't know how to leave a signature so sorry about that but saw your edit. Those were college majors (have provided a link to the correct source), I don't know if it's against WP policy to list the majors the college offers (if it does, please feel free to let me know or undo it and I apologize) but wanted to give you the heads up. Anyway, it is dedicated to Criminal Justice, hence the college's name (John Jay College of Criminal Justice). Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.41.108.33 (talk • contribs) 22:16, November 4, 2021 (UTC)
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Get your affairs in order[edit]
Your entire crime syndicate will be taken out. 74.49.143.204 (talk) 23:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Oberlin Group notability[edit]
Hi ElKevbo! I tried taking a spin through Oberlin Group of Libraries to improve it, and was surprised to find that I could not come up with any notability-qualifying sources. I'm guessing that some probably exist somewhere, given that it's referenced all the time among its members — would you be able to point me to any? Sdkb talk 17:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have any expertise in libraries or library systems. But I would not be at all surprised if this group were not notable by our standards. There are many consortia and collaborations in US higher education that are real, meaningful, and substantive - but not notable. I would imagine that many of them simply don't have enough independent coverage to write substantive encyclopedia articles that meet our standards because their focus is purely on meeting the internal needs of their members and not publicizing their work or creating large amounts of information and activity that typically draws a lot of press or scholarly coverage. ElKevbo (talk) 11:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- If it turns out to not be notable, that would put us in an interesting spot, since most members of the Oberlin Group include that fact in their infobox. We also have the {{Oberlin Group}} navbox, which we'd probably still want to keep (are there any notability standards for navboxes?). Sdkb talk 22:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very skeptical that a library group merits inclusion in the "affiliation" parameter of the infobox. The template documentation says that inclusions in that parameter should "provide essential definition of the institution's core mission and values" and it seems very unlikely that a library collaboration would meet that bar. The description for the "academic affiliation" is similar. ElKevbo (talk) 22:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed — you and I previously discussed that here, which later led to the discussion here that implemented the documentation you're citing. And I left out the Oberlin Group from the infobox when I did my FA. But until someone does a large-scale run through university articles to remove it, it'll be advice that roughly 1% of our articles actually follow. Sdkb talk 23:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've done some trimming of many infoboxes to remove specific organizations from infoboxes but I've been selective about the organizations I've removed. Identifying other organizations to trim - or add - is not very high on my "to do" list. ElKevbo (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think centralizing the discussion around which consortia to include or exclude in infoboxes would be better centralized than dispersed over thousands of articles. Category:College and university associations and consortia in the United States has a pretty manageable 75 entries, so it would be feasible to list them all out on perhaps a subpage of WP:UNIGUIDE and come to a project consensus on which meet the defining bar. That'd then constitute a basis for making mass-scale edits that wouldn't require fighting for a consensus at every single article. Sdkb talk 01:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've done some trimming of many infoboxes to remove specific organizations from infoboxes but I've been selective about the organizations I've removed. Identifying other organizations to trim - or add - is not very high on my "to do" list. ElKevbo (talk) 00:58, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed — you and I previously discussed that here, which later led to the discussion here that implemented the documentation you're citing. And I left out the Oberlin Group from the infobox when I did my FA. But until someone does a large-scale run through university articles to remove it, it'll be advice that roughly 1% of our articles actually follow. Sdkb talk 23:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm very skeptical that a library group merits inclusion in the "affiliation" parameter of the infobox. The template documentation says that inclusions in that parameter should "provide essential definition of the institution's core mission and values" and it seems very unlikely that a library collaboration would meet that bar. The description for the "academic affiliation" is similar. ElKevbo (talk) 22:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- If it turns out to not be notable, that would put us in an interesting spot, since most members of the Oberlin Group include that fact in their infobox. We also have the {{Oberlin Group}} navbox, which we'd probably still want to keep (are there any notability standards for navboxes?). Sdkb talk 22:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
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