Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eli Hagen

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The result of the debate was Keep. Rje 23:47, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)

Eli Hagen[edit]

Politicians' spouses are only notable in exceptional circumstances (such as if their horoscopes influence the foreign policy of a country, say). These aren't such circumstances. Uncle G 19:27, 2005 Feb 7 (UTC)

"wife and secretary"... second wife, I have to wonder? *sigh* Samaritan 20:10, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Politicians' spouses can be encyclopedic, simply for being famous due to their association with their spouse (e.g., Lady Bird Johnson). In practice, that pretty much limits it to the spouses of Presidents/PMs/Dictators-for-life. She might be notable, if she has received sufficient media attention, but if she had, you'd think the article would provide more detail. Delete unless notability shown. Meelar (talk) 02:51, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
The spouse of a nation's president or prime minister or other national leader is legitimately notable, because that inherently puts them in a fairly senior public role. The spouse of a political party leader who isn't a PM/president/whatever, however, should only be in here if they're notable in their own right. If she can be shown to be notable on her own, keep; if not, delete. I can't tell from a Google search, since most relevant pages are written in Norwegian. Bearcat 07:02, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Comment. There is an Eli Hagen who also listed as a published linguistics researcher. Not sure at this stage if she is the same one. ~~No vote as yet.~~ Megan1967 07:13, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- More Googling does show up some notability. Voting Keep with expansion. Megan1967 00:43, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I guess I have to say keep now. Gee, I just wasted 30 minutes of my life looking up information on this woman and summarizing it. Please take another look at the article now and tell if it is redeemable. Eli Hagen is married to the right-wing populist Carl I. Hagen. From a quick look at what Google brings up, it appears that she is notorious in Norway for accidentally driving her car down the monumental stairs in front of the Royal Palace in Oslo a few years ago, and there are references in Norwegian press to people "doing an Eli Hagen", i.e. driving down those (or other) stairs. She was subsequently featured in an advertizing campaign on road safety in Norway. / up land 09:24, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- P.S. I notice that Wikipedia still doesn't have an article on the Royal Palace in Oslo itself. / up land 09:39, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Well she's definitely no Nancy Reagan, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, Eleanor Roosevelt, or Imelda Marcos. She's not a Tipper Gore, either. Being Norway's most famous Off-Roading Mum probably brings her to the level of Christine Hamilton, though: a politician's spouse who became a minor celebrity for a short while due to one newsworthy episode, and attempted to parlay that celebrity to only minor effect. I'm not greatly convinced of the notability of such people, to be honest, though. I'm now at Weak Delete. (And I'd certainly much prefer Royal Palace in Oslo to this. ☺) Uncle G 18:13, 2005 Feb 8 (UTC)
Keep, content is helpful, could use a mild cleanup though. Wyss 20:58, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Weak keep. She seems notable enough to me, and this article is currently probably the best source of information about her anywhere (except talking with her, perhaps). LizardWizard 21:02, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hokay, after hedging my bets in my earlier comment on this, I'm now in favour of keeping, although only weakly. Bearcat 00:13, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

For me, this is a positive example of Wiki is not paper... Wyss 00:21, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Keep thanks to the good work of Uppland. hopefully, I will work on an article on Royal Palace in Oslo. Capitalistroadster 10:49, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Looking at new files on Commons, I just noticed a couple of recently uploaded images there: Image:Slottet oslo 2.jpg and Image:Slott noreg bak 1.jpg. / up land 18:22, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Keep since she is a public figure. Some may claim this is due to her hair-do and recently, the Royal Castle stairs affair. More importantly, claims have been made that she has played an important role in the development of her husbands party, which is noteworthy, especially since in recent years the party has become the largest in Norway. Sorry, but that is what I know. Egil 13:32, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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