User talk:Mulad/2004 archive

Early 2004[edit]

Hi. Over on Jesse Ventura you (rhetorically) asked eh? do people have stylesheet-deficient browsers? :) That would be a resounding "yes". One of the biggest differences between current browsers seems to be their precise handing of the default margin and padding settings. Worse, they'll probably converge on some solution that breaks have of the CSS markup on wikipedia. Bummer, huh? -- Finlay McWalter 02:09, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

That is a really great article on Lake Minnetonka. I went in to copyedit it and couldn't find anything to fix. :) Wish I could get mine to go right the first time. - Hephaestos 03:43, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Heh, thanks! —Mulad 04:16, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I see you ran into the Realtor issue on Geraldine Ferraro ... if you check the edit history of that article, you'll see that a particularly enthusiastic used-house-salesman had wanted it written as REALTOR (r). I work for a newspaper, and we have this fight with Realtors all the time - it's a made-up, copyrighted word, like Xerox, so they have a point - but what they really want is for it to always be printed in all-caps, color letters twice as big as anything else, with a hypertext link to their ads! DavidWBrooks 17:36, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, I looked at the edit history and then read the Realtor article itself, so I just decided to put it back the way it was before I edited today. —Mulad 18:19, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Howdy. I just took a look at the article on Saartje Baartman, which I copyedited last night. I note (and question) your additional changes. (1)Saartje is a diminuitive form of a Dutch surname. Would be like "Mikey" in English. I think the translation should remain. (2) Standard SI form of date is year-month-day. Common American is month-day-year, but this is by no means standard or universal. I don't want to revert your other good edits, but would prefer to see these ones changed back. Denni 19:43, 2004 Mar 15 (UTC)

Heh. Well, I will politely refuse to do year-month-day, but I will accept day-month-year (except on articles that are centered on American subjects, which I believe should be month-day-year). On your first point, I was unaware that the name was a translation—I thought it was a nickname. I will make that more clear. —Mulad 19:58, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Mulad. I'm always willing to compromise as long as it's done my way (kiiiding!!) And I'm sure you'll come around to year-month-day about the same time as Americans come around to kilometres and degrees C, which should happen just shortly before the sun goes nova. Denni 20:02, 2004 Mar 17 (UTC)

Hi Mike - the aircraft footer is only a navigational aid to other aircraft articles and lists of aircraft articles, not to articles on general aircraft categories - these should go in the article's "See also" list. Alternatively (and probably preferably), the link to X-plane should feature in the article somewhere. Take a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aircraft for examples, and of course, if you'd like to suggest changing the footers, please feel free to discuss it there. --Rlandmann 00:29, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've also made a suggestion on the List of experimental aircraft as to the scope of that list. Let me know what you think. --Rlandmann 00:39, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hello. I let you know that the North Korean local name for the Sea of Japan is the "East Sea of Korea" (朝鮮東海), not "East Sea." --Nanshu 03:27, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

HMT is Her Majesty's Troopship as it noted on the RMS Lancastria page. Mintguy (T)

You're absolutely right; the image is clearly copyrighted and I should have caught it when I picked it up. I guess I was just excited because it is a *very* spiffy pic. Thanks for noticing. :) -- Seth Ilys 11:57, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Mike

The "Clear Channel Banned Songs" list is thought to be a hoax. See [1] for details. CC did ask stations to be sensitive and there may have some sort of list but it was never published and the one spread around isn't it. Unless you have some new knowledge of the veracity of the list you probably should revert these changes. Jgm 02:24, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the snopes page has a big red "False" at the top, but that doesn't mean the list never existed. The songs were considered "questionable." Also, I grant that it was largely generated by program directors rather than the corporate office. —Mulad 02:58, May 3, 2004 (UTC)

I have not been able to prove or disprove that the list distributed on the Internet (I used the one linked on Clear Channel Communications, http://www.f---edcompany.com/extras/clearchannel_email.cfm ) was the same as the one distributed at CC. Since I can neither prove nor disprove, I have decided to neither add nor remove any references. For anyone who cares, the last edits I made were Don McLean and "American Pie". —Mulad 03:13, May 3, 2004 (UTC)

I think there is a pretty, um, "clear" consensus that:

The "list" was not an official CC proclamation but the work of a particular PD that was passed around and morphed into various versions;

The version of the list published on Slate and elsewhere may or may not represent anything in particular other than a list of songs that might remind people of the tragedy.

Given these things, I think the only accurate wording for such references might be something like: In the days following 9/11, a list of "sensitive" songs suggested to be dropped from airplay was circulated on the internet; this list is thought to have originated with a program director at a Clear Channel radio station but was not an official Clear Channel directive. Song X and song Y by this artist appeared on at least one version of this list. Now, given this explanation, the question becomes: is a song's presence on this list even noteworthy enough for inclusion in an article about the artist? I don't see how knowing that a song was on the list is going to add to one's understanding of the artist, anyway (unless the artist reacted somehow to the "banning", of which I know no cases).

What I'd suggest is to create an indpendent article on the whole flap, including the "list" and the proper level of explanation about it. Where desired, a one-liner in the artist or song article could then point to that article. Jgm 11:53, 3 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mulad,

I just wanted to thank you for your work on the Patty Wetterling page. I am the first one to create an entry for her ([[2]the IP address entry]). I'm so glad someone out there with more time on their hands was able to give her a quality write-up. Kuddos to you!

Oiarbovnb 14:21, May 12, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, can I ask why you removed all that information from MoveOn.org? Some of your changes I agreed with, and kept, but IIRC, removing facts that are verifiable and relevant is somewhat frowned upon. Is there a problem with those you took out? Yours, Meelar 15:02, 14 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, that was totally accidental (must have edited an old version of the page without realizing it) —Mulad 15:30, May 14, 2004 (UTC)

Hi

Since I see you're from the Minneapolis area, you might be interested in a Wikipedia:Meetup there. UninvitedCompany 16:21, 26 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Mulad. Since I can't use photoshop, would you mind reducing the resolution of Image:MetroRailInside.jpg ? WhisperToMe 04:21, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I was reading the ABC Family page, and the article fails to mention the channel's first fifteen years, when it was first CBN and then The Family Channel. It was a major cable channel offering so it does very much warrant mention. Mike H 02:12, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)

I apologize if I sounded bitchy. I know what the channel used to be, but I don't know exact dates or anything like that. If I do edit the article, it'll have to be tomorrow after some searching. I have a big television book so that won't be horribly hard. Mike H 02:55, Jun 27, 2004 (UTC)

Hi Mulad,

I just wanted to say thank you for helping with the Grand Excursion article.

JesseG 01:13, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I'm so sorry![edit]

I am sooooooooooo sorry, my little brother finds it funny to come on here and mess with other's work! I'm going to download a site blocker right now so that he cant access this site without a password, Sorry againb ~ XSholtz (PS please message me after you get this message so I know u read it)

Hiawatha Line[edit]

Thanks for doing an absolutely fantastic job on the Hiawatha Line article (and I'm sure many other Minnesota articles, this was just the first I've come across)! kmccoy (talk) 10:37, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Image Problems[edit]

Hi, Mulad:

The maps at North Pyongan (Image:NK-hamgyongbukto.png) and North Hamgyong are missing incomplete: there are lines missing from them... Could you take a look at them? The maps at South Pyongan, North Hwanghae, and South Hwanghae are okay. --Sewing 09:05, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Actually, I just contacted the German Wikipedian directly who uploaded the maps on their site. I figure that's probably the better approach! --Sewing 11:35, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Rochester, MN[edit]

I was curious to see who had done such a great job of fleshing out the Elmer L. Andersen article. I see you are also from the Rochester area (hi, neighbor!).

(BTW, the Rochester article is a bit boring. One of these days I should try to expand it.) -- Jonathunder 18:21, 2004 Nov 16 (UTC)

Adminship[edit]

Recently I did some analysis of contribution history for Wikipedia, the fruits of which are at Wikipedia:Another list of Wikipedians in order of arrival. As I reviewed the list, I noted that there are about a dozen longtime contributors who have not been made administrators. You are one of them. Accordingly, I would like to nominate you for adminship, with your permission. If you would appreciate such a nomination, please let me know on my talk page. If you do wish to decline, a note so saying would also be appreciated, though not necessary.

Besides, you're one of the many Wikipedians from Minnesota. I am not far from the town of Kenyon, to your northwest.

Kindest regards, The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:46, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. It's important to know, even if you choose to do anything so I don't keep asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) 14:31, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

aircraft(s)[edit]

...that one of the first aircrafts to cross the Atlantic was the Savoia-Marchetti S.55 flying boat, which went on to serve in the Luftwaffe in WWII?

You changed aircrafts to aircraft. Now I'm not a native English speaker, but when there is a sentence fragment that says one of the first, shouldn't the following word be plural? One of the first implies it is part of a group. I've seen similar constructions here on wikipedia, and I really wanna know what the deal is. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 18:59, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)

Really? I've been speaking English for quite some time, but I never come across this one... Anyway, I won't forget now. Thanks for the grammar lesson :) Is there any difference between American and British spelling on this? [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 19:04, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)