User talk:CGorman~enwiki/Archive 1

Bristol International Airport

Well done on Bristol International Airport. Edward 11:09, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

REDIRECT

Hi there,

Just wondering why you redirected Ballymahon to Ballymahon, Ireland. As far as I know there are no other Ballymahons, and if there are, it is most likely the Irish article that has claim to the main article location. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation

Also, use the move tab to move a page, not cut and paste. The article history is stuck at the old location if that is done. A sysop can help if you can perform the page move for some reason.

zoney ♣ talk 19:00, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

comma Ireland

Hello again!

It's customary to use the format [[placename]] and not [[placename, countryname]] for places where it's unambiguous as to where is in question (e.g. Kinnegad). Even if there's another place of the same name, often one location is more important and gets the main article title, with just a link to a disambiguation page. It's only in situations like Limerick and Ardmore that nowhere gets the main title. zoney ♣ talk 19:13, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ok, thanks - its just I noticed a lot of the English town pages are 'XYZ, England' - even if there are no other articles - eg. Ashbourne. I'll stick to 'XYZ' on its own from now on. As for incorrectly moving the page - sorry --CGorman 19:20, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

We may always end up having to move them later of course! I hope you don't mind my disruption of your work! I've been changing [[Irish]] to [[Irish language|Irish]] as well, because the former goes to a disambiguation page or Ireland, but not directly to the language page. Also I've started putting {{geo-stub}} instead of {{stub}}, apparently there's a drive to use categorised stub templates. Finally, when the article is a stub, or there's only one external link or see also, it's customary to put it on one line with the following syntax - :''External link: [http://www.xyz.com/ XYZ].

I hope you don't mind my disruption of your work! - thats the beauty of Wikipedia - its not my work - its everyones. Anyways thanks for all your help - I may be here several months, but I hav'nt done much until now. --CGorman 22:14, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Well, is this article right? --CGorman 19:47, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I've just indented the see also, as that is more usual. I switched the A on "also" to lowercase as well, another convention that's generally used on Wikipedia. I usually use the format (Irish: áit) myself, but that's personal preference. Yeah, I know, it probably seems I'm acting overboard! :-)

As regards "your work", it is actually your work, you even own the copyright. It's just that you've granted an irrevocable GFDL (Gnu Free Documentation Licence) to those who wish to use it. (It can be copied, edited mercilessly, etc.) But any original content you create is your work!

zoney ♣ talk 22:52, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Junior Cert

Thats some pretty rockin' expanding you're doing on the Junior Cert article! KIU. What I noticed though is that on the list of subjects, the links go to the general article, rather than the article on the JC subject - eg. Science links to the article about Science in general rather than an article about the school subject science. So, I think we should make pages for all the subjects eg Maths (school subject) etc. Man, I must be confusing you. JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 21:46, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking the same, only thing thought - this could be overdoing it, do we really need an article for Irish (as taught at JC level)?, I think the general one is ok for that - however in the case of Art, Tech Drawing, Technology etc., then articles should be made. So it seems some require articles, others don't.--CGorman 17:27, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

User page box design

Hope you don't mind me copying your user page box design! JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 23:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

O course you can use it - sure everything on Wikipedias Opensource! --CGorman 17:56, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Irish in Junior Cert

Just after editing the Junior Cert article, I noticed Irish is said to be mandatory. Is it? I know people in my class who aren't doing it because they lived abroad for several years etc., whereas I would have thought subjects such as history and science would be mandatory. JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 17:12, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well it is mandatory for natives or people present for the last 7 years in Ireland.

Ah right. Thanks. JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 19:25, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

WP:LCOTW

Interested? JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 21:13, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well I can't really offer much knowledge - but I'll drop by now and then to help with external links, references, see also's, pictures (if possible) and structural designs - but don't expect much! --CGorman 18:52, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Irish town stubs

Hi there,

I think the time has come to stop adding Irish town stubs, until some of the existing ones are expanded. I am thinking particularly of the Dublin towns and suburbs. Any deletionist would have a field-day with those! Some only have the Irish placename, and a rough location (north of X, south of Y). That's a bit too little info, even for a stub. I suggest red links are better - letting us know what still needs attention.

zoney ♣ talk 17:16, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I was beginning to think the same myself zoney - i'll start work right away on the stubs - probably on the A's first. --CGorman 17:57, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ryanair Photo

• 200px|Ryanair website

Can you add a licence to that photo. There's an ongoing project ATM to tag all images on wikipedia. IMO it would be fair use, but as you uploaded it it's your call. Thanks JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 18:00, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC) (PS I believe the preferred format for non-photo images is .PNG - doesn't really matter but just something to keep in mind.)

Done --CGorman 18:03, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Nice one, thanks. JOHN COLLISON | (Ludraman) 17:12, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Map of Westmeath

Hi there,

I recently uploaded Image:Ireland westmeath towns.png to replace Image:Westmeath.jpg. Diagrams should not be saved as jpegs, and the latter hence has much artifacts. I redid the diagram with smoother lines and text (though admittedly, the text could be clearer - I may change it). Do I have your permission to delete your image?

zoney ♣ talk 12:36, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sure CGorman 18:03, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Adding more town articles to main list

Hello again.

I'm going to add some more towns to the master list, can the red links be left this time until we have more than one/two lines for them?

I want to go through all the existing town articles first, but also the county articles, adding all the towns, red link or not, to the master list.

Good work on your recent expansions of some of the towns. I think what we have so far is fairly impressive, and it will encourage random Irish (or other) viewers/editors to add to any town they know about.

zoney ♣ talk 19:48, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ok --CGorman 18:56, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

When to use or not use piped links

Hello again!

Can I ask you not to use piped links like [[Westmeath|County Westmeath]]. This makes the link load whatever page is at "Westmeath", but in the case of the county pages, all are at "County Blah". "Blah" may (should) bring you to the city or town named "Blah" (e.g. in the case of Limerick, Cork, Dublin, Galway, Waterford, Kilkenny, Kildare, etc.)

Always use links such as [[County Westmeath]] to link to the county. If you really want to link to the city or town by the same name as the county, use links like [[Donegal Town|Donegal]] (to make sure you are going to the town article, not the county). Links such as [[Donegal]] should bring you to the town (not the county) but this behaviour is not guaranteed.

On another note, I've finished categorising all articles that were formerly just Towns in the Republic of Ireland. They are all now "Towns in CountyX". I've also imported the lists from the county pages into the master list, and expanded some (e.g. Donegal).

Now to start on Northern Ireland towns!!!

zoney ♣ talk 19:59, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

IRC chat re meetup

Heya, the meetup chats on now on IRC channel #meetup.wikimedia if you want to join. JOHN COLLISON [ Ludraman] 20:07, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Celtic Tiger

I voted, maybe you'd consider George Moore (novelist)? Not that I'd want to see a Cabal, mind you. Filiocht 10:30, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Well I'll have a little read of the George Moore (novelist) article and see what I can do... ;), thanks! CGorman 10:34, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

(Pompous 'voice of experience' message warning) Don't be discouraged if the votes are slow in coming, they often are if the topic is not American or mass-media related. And objections are ways to further improve an already great article. Filiocht 10:40, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the George Moore vote, glad you liked the Manet picture! It made it to FA, which is great. Filiocht 08:24, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)

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I don't see any objection from me to Celtic Tiger on WP:FAC, just a comment. Gdr 00:05, 2004 Oct 29 (UTC)

Barrys

Hi,

I've just noticed that we've both got articles on Barry's Tea - mine is here Barry's Tea, and yours is here Barrys.

Would you mind if yours became a redirect to mine? Just asking, 'cause I've got a bit more detail in mine..

AndrewH 16:07, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ec of Ire for FAC

Was reading Economy of Ireland - IMO it will be shot down of FAC unless you put in a lead section. I know the overview works but there is still superstition regarding FACers about lead sections. Maybe move some of the overview? JOHN COLLISON [ Ludraman] 20:23, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

It's lookin pretty good now - when'r you putting it on FAC? JOHN COLLISON [ Ludraman] 17:56, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've added a bit about the health service which may be controversial / not be NPOV. Please see the talk page comments. I hope it doesn't screw up the FAC nomination, but I had to a) fix the "free healthcare" misinformation, and b) explain in full the actual situation. zoney ♣ talk 21:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Nice work dealing with the objections. Looking good, I think. Filiocht 11:08, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

I split the article, as the Republic didn't exist prior to 1922. Have a look at what I have done at Economy of Ireland and Economy of the Republic of Ireland, also see comments at Talk:Economy of Ireland. Hopefully my work increases the prospects of getting the latter article featured, while we have our work cut out for us at the former. zoney ♣ talk 12:20, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've opened a bit of a can of worms, and horribly muddied the waters. My apologies. See Talk:Economy of the Republic of Ireland and User talk:Filiocht. I think the current title is not suitable, but it probably can't yet be featured under the title Economy of Ireland. zoney ♣ talk 13:43, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Celtic Tiger is now a featured article!

Congrats: really good work. Filiocht 08:42, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it's nice that we've got a good few Irish FAs recently, but no thanks is due to me. Credit, as always, to the author for all the hard work involved. Do you plan on posting Economy of Ireland on WP:FAC any time soon? Filiocht 08:51, Nov 5, 2004 (UTC)

WP:LCOTW

Filiocht 10:45, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)

Economy of Republic of Ireland FA candidacy

I think you are doing excellent work on Economy of Republic of Ireland. Hope my comments haven't been "bugging" you ;-) FAC can be a grueling process ;-) I just went through the "gauntlet" myself recently on Attalus I. Paul August 19:49, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

I went through with Celtic Tiger earlier in the month - they picked on everything! - even my cute little tiger image! Anyways I suppose the criticism will benifit wikipedia in the long run. As for the time changeable nature of the article - I don't see any way around it, all those figures are relevent and necessary to fully describe an economy. Thanks for your constructive criticism. CGorman 19:58, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree that the article has to have this time dependent content in it. I'm just concerned about the problems inherent in this, and in ways to ameliorate it, Did you look at Avoid statements that will date quickly? It contains some suggestions for this problem. Also some of the words phrase which contain words like "now" and "recently" and "past decade" could be dated? Anyway I'm not objecting to this article on this (or any) basis. I think it's great! My only concern is to make the article as good as it can be ;-) By the way did you see my comment about the newer intro in the CIA factbook? Paul August 20:26, Nov 11, 2004 (UTC)

Wikinews demo up and running

Hi!

I'm writing to let you know that the Wikimedia Board of Trustees has approved the first stage of the Wikinews project. There's now a fully operational English demo site at demo.wikinews.org. This will be used for experimenting with various review models and basic policies before the site is launched officially in about a week. demo.wikinews.org will become the English version later.

You voted for the Wikinews project, so I'm asking for your participation now. Everything is open, nothing is final. What Wikinews will and can be depends in large part on you. There already is a global Wikinews mailing list for discussing the project. If you are interested at all, please subscribe -- coordination is of key importance. There's also an IRC channel #wikinews on irc.freenode.net. Realtime discussion can help to polish up articles.

If you're looking for something to do, check out the articles in development and articles in review. Or start a new story in the Wikinews workspace, or ignore the proposed review system - it's up to you. I hope you'll join us soon in this exciting experiment.--Eloquence* 02:00, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

Congratulations

Economy of Ireland made it to WP:FA! Filiocht 08:38, Nov 19, 2004 (UTC)

Great! CGorman 16:11, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Economy of Europe

Hi, I noticed you'd got this new article on you 'to do' list, so was wondering if you would add your support to it's nomination for Collaboration of the Week. Simply add your support here. Obviously such a big project needs as many users with relevant knowledge as possible, so hopefully this will promote it a little. Thanks, Grunners 00:45, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Celtic tiger cartoon.jpg

Could you please add copyright license info (and an image tag) to image:Celtic tiger cartoon.jpg - I plan to have it on the main page soon. →Raul654 18:19, Nov 26, 2004 (UTC)

Junior Cert

I'm wondering - what do you think needs to be done to Junior Cert before nomination for WP:FAC. It seems to be in reasonably good shape, but maybe you can see something I have missed. JOHN COLLISON [ Ludraman] 21:11, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Junior Cert

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