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Deletion of Meaningful Planet article and related efforts

Hi Jim,

This relates to your message related to the deletion of the article I created around Meaningful Planet and related edits. You are correct in that I do have an interest in Meaningful Planet as it is a company I work for - apologies for not disclosing this; it is my first time actively editing Wikipedia and so am still making sense of the interface.

Though I have a potential 'conflict of interest' I deliberately wrote the article in a neutral and entirely factual tone so that it would provide value to Wikipedia users and avoid any bias or marketing content. If you feel the article does not comply with this, I would greatly appreciate any and all feedback that I would look to fully respect and incorporate? Likewise I'd happily have you assess any draft before publication.

Thanks

Nick 0 2A00:8B40:4DAE:0:E0C4:3C16:E386:6F27 (talk) 08:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Apologies I sent this logged out ---- Catonisdonis (talk) 08:14, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

G11 - for Draft:Dhionis Domi

Hi,

We had an edit conflict on Draft:Dhionis Domi processing the G11 request resulting in me being the author of the current draft and the article history with attribution is not present. I was declining the G11 request because though it was spammy, it was not TNT level of spammy and fixable. I removed the all the puffery which resulted in me being marked as the draft creator as you had deleted the article while I was editing. With your agreement, I'd like to restore the article with its proper history for attribution and re-apply my edits to de-spam the draft. Thanks. -- Whpq (talk) 15:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Whpq, that's fine with me, wasn't aware, thanks Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Democratic Fine-tuning

Democratic Finetuning is an application of moral graphs and constitutional AI. Currently only being applied by OpenAI. The idea is that if more people understand this application of moral graphs they will be able to apply it in their own projects. This is not a promotion of a product. This is the promotion of a scientific method which does not belong to one company.

comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:12, 14 June 2024 (UTC) ns

(talk page watcher) Promotion is promotion though, and it is not what this platform is for. Articles that seek to promote anything - be that an idea, a genre of music, a type of therapeutic massage, whatever - need to be rewritten, or deleted. The draft you've written does indeed look highly promotional - are you connected in some way with the Meaning Alignment Institute? Girth Summit _(blether) 12:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Girth Summit. ∞∞∞∞∞, the key word is "promotion", which you state above you are doing, doesn't have to be a product, You can promote ideas, like communism, or democratic fine tuning. Your text was an almost completely unreferenced opinion piece with a promotional tone, not an encyclopaedia article. Also, please read conflict of interest and note that any COI must be declared, and that creating the same stuff under a different title to evade scrutiny won't end well Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I have no connection with the Meaning Alignment Institute. Perhaps promote is not the right word as nothing is being sold. I am simply trying to document this application of moral graphs in the hopes that people can educate themselves on it. comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:33, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, I made a draft page to make corrections and make it more Wikipedia worthy. I was under the impression that as a draft it would be scrutinized once submitted for review. comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Not connected to the Meaning Alignment Institute, just interested in the topic comment by ∞∞∞∞∞ (talk • contribs) 11:38, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

∞∞∞∞∞ even if you have no COI, what you posted was highly promotional, gave no indication of notability and had no references. The draft was identical except that it had three supposed references, none of which was a reputable independent third-party source. It's true that drafts have some protection, particularly with regard to references, but you can't expect a different outcome when you post the same text. Since you have no COI, I suggest that you leave this and move on, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:26, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

ImAllexx

Hey! My page on Alex Elmsie was deleted as self-written and advertising. I am not Alex Elmsie and created the page for a notable figure currently in the press (ImAllexx is hugely popular internet personality with over 2 million subscribers). I have no association. I used several references from articles but the deletion cites only YouTube was used. Thanks! Romulon5 (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Romulon5, I've seen this message, but I won't have time to reply until tomorrow Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Thank you! Romulon5 (talk) 18:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 07:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)