Talk:Amae

quick query[edit]

If this 'amae' is so crucial to Japanese society and not just something that exists in all societies then why hasn't it been translated into Japanese yet? Maybe it's just westerners who find these kind of matter-of-fact concepts that exist in their own society as being so fascinating. Do we have an English page for the concept of 'amae' as well?

So is this the reason that in WWII Japanese soldiers killed by Chinese soldiers muttered "mother" before they died? and why the Japanese name of the video game Earthbound is called Mother? lysdexia 01:02, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The World War II thing may very well be so. The title of the Mother series, however, is more likely a complete non sequitur. Kairos 5 July 2005 08:17 (UTC)

-Japanese soliders cried 'mother' when they died as did the US soldiers. You can find that reported in Okinawa: The Last Battle of World War II by Robert Leckie

Yeah there's something a bit fringe about "The behavior of children towards their parents is perhaps the most common example of amae, but it has been suggested that child-rearing practices in the Western world seek to stop this kind of dependence in children, while it continues into adulthood in close relationships in Japan.[1]" It almost seems to imply that Japanese peopel remain dependent throughout their entire lives, as if Japan isn't a functioning First World nation. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 17:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is a fair summary of what Doi says. He doesn't claim Japanese are more dependent (that I remember, anyway), only that such overt behavior is more accepted in adults (especially women) than in the West. After all, we're all dependent throughout our adult lives. Independence is pathological in a social species. kwami (talk) 22:55, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confucian cultures encourage children to not be independent, as it places a stronger emphasis on children owing their parents. They view the parent-child relationship as being a form of sovereign-subject, unlike Western cultures where the child is expected to make his/her own way through society once an adult -- to become independent, no longer having to rely upon the patron-parent to navigate society. Meanwhile, the West traditionally places a stigma on indulging children & behaving like an indulged child; consider how many of the terms for such behavior in English are uncomplimentary, both by the patron/parent and the client/child.71.76.234.76 (talk) 17:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation style. July 2006[edit]

Should give full name, title of report, year, publisher. See Wikipedia:Citing sources. Skinnyweed 00:53, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Using the limited information available (last name and date), I think I have found the proper sources. I would encourage anyone familiar with this topic to review the sources I found and make sure I didn't make a mistake. --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · contribs · e@} 22:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Doi didn't coin[edit]

Deleted comments Doi coined the word. The verbal form amaeru is more common, but the nominal amae is frequent enough to make it into the dictionaries. kwami 00:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doi coined the substantive amae. Unless you have earlier examples of the noun, refrain from removing the note.Nishidani (talk) 18:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, he did not. As I said above, it's common enough to make it into dictionaries. — kwami (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Merge[edit]

Merged into The Anatomy of Dependence. Please help finish the merge. --Uncle Ed (talk) 17:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]