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Match timing[edit]

I thought lunch is always taken at a specific time and the tea break is more flexible. The article says that the luch break can be moved. Is this correct? BartBart (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How long is a morning session, afternoon session, a day, etc. assuming there's no bad light stopping play, or bad weather forcing stoppages or earlier close of the day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimHowardII (talk • contribs) 05:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Starting time varies but example of sessions:

  • 10:30am - 12:30am
  • 12:30pm - 1:10pm lunch
  • 1:10pm - 3:10pm
  • 3:10pm - 3:30pm tea
  • 3:30pm - 5:30pm

Lunch timing cannot be moved (although it may be shifted very slightly to allow for last over to be finished) Tea can be delayed by up to 30 minutes if one team is 9 wickets down. It is taken upon the fall of the 10th wicket if that occurs) Half an hour can be added to the last of the three sessions to allow for slow over-rates. I think there is some provision to make up for lost time due to bad weather/light, but not certain when and what conditions. BartBart (talk) 12:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, how many overs would that be? Is it 90 overs per day? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TimHowardII (talk • contribs) 08:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is meant to be 90 overs, but the slow over-rate by most teams often means they aren't all bowled even with the extra 30 minutes. btw TimHowardII - sign your comments by put four tilde (~) symbols after your comments. BartBart (talk) 13:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation of "Test"[edit]

I would have thought that the word "test" or the phrase "test match" should not have the initial T capitalised, unless it is referring to a specific test, such as "In the First Test, ...". This is because test and test match are both common nouns, not proper nouns - although I do see that the incorrect capitalisation is quite useful for distinguishing from test = trial. Anyone have any thoughts before I go through and recapitalise this article, as well as every other article mentioning "Tests", like today's featured article on Clem Hill (and presumably every other test cricketer's article)? Jason A. Recliner (talk) 12:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only that you'd be going against conventional usage by decapitalising Test. It's standard accepted usage that it is always capitalised when referring to a Test match. Wikipedia should follow that precedent. -dmmaus (talk) 03:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:CRIC#STYLE. This issue was discussed extensively some time back at WT:CRIC and the consensus was for capitalisation. If you think a change is justified, best bring it up there first. –Moondyne 14:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The word "test" here is not being used generically as a noun meaning a trial. Test Cricket is a particular class of cricket, it's analogous to writing about Rugby League as opposed to a rugby league. Cathi M (talk) 17:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Reading some of the cricket articles with poor grammar, and/or confusion, spurious punctuation as well as missing punctuation does not enhance my comfort level that the English language should make an exception that 'test' should always be capitalised. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 05:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Conventional Usage Ain't Always Correct. Eric talk 14:09, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Conduct of the game[edit]

I've had a shot at cleaning up the Conduct of the game section - hopefully it now reads far more clearly, especially for those who might be new to the game.

The edited section contains all of the information in the previous revision, except discussion of the strategies surrounding the toss and declarations, which I think would be better placed in their respective articles (?). Az 90 (talk) 04:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

End of Game scenarios[edit]

I'm confused by the description of the second and third scenarios for end of the game. (I'm American, so I have very little experience with cricket.)

The second-scenario description states:

"If, during the fourth innings, the aggregate run total of the team batting surpasses that of its opposition (which has already batted twice)."

During the fourth innings, haven't both teams batted three times?

The third-scenario description states:

"If, after completion of the third innings, the aggregate run total of the team which has batted twice (Team A, or Team B if the follow-on has been enforced) is less than the first innings total of the other team."

After completion of the third innings, haven't both teams batted three times?

Jamesmelody (talk) 08:08, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the instances you have described, in cricket terminology, the number of innings refers to the number of times either team has batted. That is, there are 4 innings in the match. Team 1 bats in the first and third innings, team 2 bats in the second and fourth innings. MC Rocks (talk) 08:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We have had a few instances of Tests being abandoned without a ball being bowled. Take for instance this one - http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64137.html Cricinfo gives the result as "Match abandoned without a ball bowled" I also believe that "Pitch damaged by third party causing match abandonment." hardly counts as an offilcial way of the game being at an end. If that counts you should be able to include games abandoned due to rioting and so on. Rocketrod1960 10:08, 30 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocketrod1960 (talk • contribs)

Opening Paragraph[edit]

I arrived at this article via a link that appeared on todays front page. I have no experience with the subject and therefore will not attempt to edit the article. However I thought this point is worth raising in the discussion:

In the opening paragraph it states "This was not the first ever international cricket match however, which was played between Canada and the United States, on 24 and 25 of September 1844."

The issue is then that Canada was not a country in 1844. So I think this could do with some clairification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.147.49 (talk) 08:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC) Ouch - good spot - but in terms of cricket history, dubious facts of such age are rarely challenged. 94.43.176.150 (talk) 08:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

test cricket - England[edit]

One correction here - till mid 70's, "England" was not the official participant, it used to be "MCC" - Marylebone Crickett Club" Pl check —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.170.11.116 (talk) 10:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that referred to overseas tours where matches against non test teams were branded MCC. WillE (talk) 20:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]


First and subsequent tests[edit]

I think a rider about the first test (and subsequent early tests) is needed, as they were 'subsequently' deemed to be Test Matches. I believe the 1902-03 was the first official MCC tour, but do not know the exact dates test match status was awarded to Bannerman, Shaw and co. 94.43.176.150 (talk) 08:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scoring points[edit]

So the article tells how the game is timed, how it ends, its rather extensive history (which, that section should be after how the game is played), but it doesn't say a thing about how points are scored. How are points scored? How is an innings determined to be over? What does a batsman do? Or a bowler? What do the other players do? Shouldn't those kinds of details be in this article? Hires an editor (talk) 12:52, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article refers to "Test" cricket. The answers to your questions are found at Cricket. It's like having Major League Baseball but having all the content on how to play the game being found at baseball. S.G.(GH) ping! 10:25, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Correction[edit]

The article says that the first international match was played from 24-25th September 1844,but the citation/source reveals that it is actually 24-26th September.Day 2 was cancelled because of rain,and play extended to the 3rd day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.134.195 (talk) 15:10, 1 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, England were in RSA and AUS in 1891/92, not 1911/12.

Overs?[edit]

The article completely fails to explain what an "over" is. 99.247.125.122 (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The first occurrence of the work "over" in the article links to the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_%28cricket%29
I think that follows the editing standard. There is also a link to the "Cricket Terminology" category at the bottom of the article which links to the "Over (cricket)" page.Perry Middlemiss (talk) 02:02, 9 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where are u at Klarice-A (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Milwaukee Wisconsin, where u at? Snarevox (talk) 13:40, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

etymology[edit]

Why "test"?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:22, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge with Two-tier Test cricket[edit]

This proposal did not turn into action and appears to have been abandoned, a full article is unnecessary. LukeSurl t c 12:58, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, please go ahead. Mmitchell10 (talk) 19:11, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - it could basically be reduced to two sentences. --LukeSurl t c 08:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Teams[edit]

How many women can be on each team Klarice-A (talk) 18:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Eleven. See Women's Test Cricket. --LukeSurl t c 19:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

do you really talk like this?[edit]

i noticed a needlessly overcomplicated grouping of words and id just like to ask for a change so other people like me dont need to read it 4 times to understand it (if i even do now).

ok it says "Team A may enforce the follow-on if Team B's first innings total is 150 or more fewer than Team A's."

anything "or more fewer" just sounds super wonky to me. couldnt you just say "Team A may enforce the follow-on if their first innings total is 150 or more than Team B's."

although the new sentence is only like 6 letters and 2 spaces less than the original, i find it infinitely smoother and easier to understand, but im also an american, is there maybe some rule im unaware of that says high class cricket speak should be as convoluted as possible? like a sort of inner circle, keep our secrets secret type thing??

just a thought. Snarevox (talk) 13:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How much player are play in one team[edit]

Do 110.224.111.170 (talk) 05:06, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

11. Bob Palin (talk) 20:39, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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