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Category:Christian evangelicalism[edit]

An awkward phrase, it gets only 810 Google hits. It should be replaced with the much more widely used Category:Evangelical Christianity -- Decumanus 06:15, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

"You say, to-MAY-to, and I say, to-MAH-to..." I'm not sure the Google test is the appropriate one for deciding which way to phrase an admittedly encyclopedic concept. The current phrasing is parallel to the great bulk of categories and articles in this area, which are almost all "Christian [noun]," instead of "[Adjective] Christianity." There are actually a few category topics in this area where the latter phrasing might be better, such as "Charismatic Christianity" as opposed to "Christian Charismaticism(?)," but overall, consistency is probably the strongest virtue. (And "Christian art" stands little chance of making it over to "Artistic Christianity," LOL—oh, I just kill me!) On balance, I would say the current system reads better, especially when all these categories and articles appear together on the Category:Christianity page. So, Keep. --Gary D 06:29, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

I think the analogy with "Christian art" is entirely a false one. "Artistic Christianity" is not a movement of Christianity, whereas "Evangelical Christianity" is. I see nothing wrong with invoking Google test is appropriate here. After all, everything in Wikipedia should be encyclopedic. I see the virtue in parallelism, and if people want to keep it that way, that's fine, but I think parallelism should not be at the expense of the using more widely used version. -- Decumanus 19:27, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

The word, surely, is Evangelism. So why is the category not Category: Christian evangelism? A phrase, by the way, which gets close to 20,000 Google hits. Grutness talk 06:32, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It turns out there is a distinction; evangelism is the activity, while evangelicalism is more of a movement. My recommendation: read all about it in Wikipedia! ;-) --Gary D 08:22, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
Christian evangelism is absolutely not what is meant. But evangelicalism is a somewhat peculiar word. Evangelism is an activity; Evangelical Christianity is a movement (or whatever); evangelicalism is just plain difficult to type. The Pentecostal category needs emergency first aid, but please, please, for the sake of all the typos we would have to correct, let's not have Christian Charismaticism and Pentecostalism. It's possible to carry our interest in consistency so far that we forget that this system is being used by real people. -Aranel ("Sarah") 22:11, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree the category is misnamed, but not in the way described in this discussion. It should simply be Category:Evangelicalism. The root word 'evangel' is defined as 'the Christian gospel'. The word 'evangelicalism' means 'evangelical beliefs or doctrines' (or adherence to a church or party professing such) where the word 'evangelical' means 'of, pertaining to, or in accordance with the Christian gospel'. Saying "Christian evangelicalism" is like saying "spicy spice", "star Sun" or "erasing eraser". —Mike 07:30, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree with Mike, it should just be Category:Evangelicalism. Kevin Rector 20:27, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)
  • I don't sure on the best name but I sure agree "Christian" is redundant in "Christian evangelicalism".--Erri4a 20:22, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • Category:Evangelical Christianity is the best name; Category:Evangelicalism is awkward-sounding, while the present name is both awkward and redundant. Category:Baptist needs to go to Category:Baptist Christianity, too, as there is AFAIK no -ism form, and the use of the adjective alone is quite out of place in the subcategory list. (I'm not sure what Category:Amish ought to be, but it needs fixing too...) The best approach, I believe, is to use -ism forms when they exist and are not awkward or ugly, and use X Christianity for the others. —Tkinias 20:15, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
'Evangelicalism' would be ok to use. Most likely it sounds awkward because people don't use it much, and I wouldn't disqualify any valid "-ism" word just because it may seem awkward. Also, 'Baptist' and 'Amish' are nouns which can also be used in the adjective form. I don't see any problem with keeping those categories. —Mike 05:04, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
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