Talk:Death of Bridget Driscoll

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A light account of the court case can be found in The Times (London) "INQUEST.-Last evening Mr. Percy Morrison," Wednesday, Aug 26, 1896. Seems to infer that the driver was a cabbie and that it was not for a special exhibition but not enough evidence to determine.

Accuracy of quotes[edit]

I've changed "tremendous speed" and "This must never happen again" quotes. They seem overdramatic and exaggerated for humor value. How could 4mph be considered "tremendous" when a pedestrian can easily outrun it? The exact quotes seem to vary among sources; but [1] seems fairly authoritative and has more plausible-sounding quotes, so I've substituted them into the article. Does someone have a more reliable, paper-book source? Redquark 15:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing this source. It also implies that a "reckless pace ... like a fire engine" and 4 mph were considered very different alternatives at the time, while the article makes it sound like people were referring to 4 mph as a "reckless pace". I'll change it and add the source to the article. --Allen 05:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Ref improve banner[edit]

Hi Widefox, you added the refimprove banner to the article - can you itemise here please which specific material you think remains unsourced. -- DeFacto (talk). 14:59, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well it seems obvious to me, but for instance there's no source for the year of birth, and the obvious that two sources for a Start is already weak. Is that enough or should I go on? Widefox; talk 19:32, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC article, referenced at the end of the first sentence, gives her age as 44 when she was killed, which means she was born in 1851 or 1852 - perhaps we should put c.1851. Is there anything that is not verifiable from the two sources? -- DeFacto (talk). 19:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Widefox: I've changed that, are you happy to remove the banner now, or is there anything else you think needs specific referencing? -- DeFacto (talk). 23:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The "Weston hemisphere" is from the article, which could be similarly clarified as per [2] and then the note can be removed. Widefox; talk 19:35, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's in the Henry H. Bliss, not this one. -- DeFacto (talk). 19:50, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's my (unclear) point - it should be fixed in the article as using "hemisphere" to include non-land mass for driving is nonsensical. The see also's can be aligned with the corrected article. Widefox; talk 23:54, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

“Mary Driscoll”[edit]

World Health Organisation, on 19 February 2020, said “The first among these fatalities is said to be Mary Driscoll, a pedestrian struck by a car in London in 1896. At the time, the coroner was reported to have said “this should never happen again”.”

This is not saying that WHO is a superior source; merely observing the disagreement. JDAWiseman (talk) 17:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly loads of sources that give her correct name Mrs Bridget Driscoll. MilborneOne (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. But if the WHO’s error should be copied, it does no harm for there to be an early note of it. JDAWiseman (talk) 21:45, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly her daughter was called "Mary" although reports at the time call her "May". I presume that it is Bridget and her husband Michael in the picture with her three children, Mary born 1876, John born 1879 and James born 1882. MilborneOne (talk) 22:18, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It appears Irish women were pioneers in one unfortunate respect. Sarah777 (talk) 21:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]