Talk:Slave name

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french slave names[edit]

in the french colonies, the slaves were given names meaning things like Moustache or Ladocile(Docile person), supposedly in mauritius there are people in the country, who bear some surnames differing from their nom papiers(slave names which they are known by the government as) and nom lakaz (names taken through oral history) , but not enough funds was put into that project) More information can be found from this site: http://www.mrc.org.mu/uscpa18.htm Domsta333 04:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'African American'[edit]

The section on 'African American' totally misses out Caribbean descendants of African slaves and also those ex slaves who settled in Sierra Leone and Liberia. Descendants of African slaves outside of the US DO NOT tend to call themselves African American as this is a Hyphenated term that Americans tend to excel at — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funkg (talk • contribs) 22:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural Significance[edit]

This article could be helped with a greater degree of the cultural discussion behind the term "slave name", as it represents the alienation of Africans from their (seemingly)inherited cultural heritage, and its casting off marked the first rejection of the white american cultural consciousness.TheHappiestCritic (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

suggestion[edit]

I just did a fast copy edit on the frech section, but it seems to me that it was mostly a history of slavery in the region and while it mentioned certain surnames it coiuld use some expansion and context

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I wrote the Dutch version of this topic. The changing of slave names is an actual issue for more and more Afro-Dutch people in the Netherlands. I think the template about additional citations can be removed here because there are sufficient sources. I do not like to do this myself. Niksbij26 (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is this actually true in the American context?[edit]

Here is what Thomas Sowell has to say about 'slave names' in Economic Facts and Fallacies (p163)

Some of the most basic beliefs and assumptions about the black family are demonstrably fallacious. For example, it has been widely believed that black family names were the names of the slave masters who owned particular families. Such beliefs led a number of American blacks, during the 1960s especially, to repudiate those names as a legacy of slavery and give themselves new names— most famously boxing champion Cassius Clay renaming himself Muhammad Ali.

Family names were in fact forbidden to blacks enslaved in the United States, as family names were forbidden to other people in lowly positions in various other times and places— slaves in China and parts of the Middle East, for example, and it was 1870 before common people in Japan were authorized to use surnames. In Western civilization, ordinary people began to have surnames in the Middle Ages. In many places and times, family names were considered necessary and appropriate only for the elite, who moved in wider circles— both geographically and socially— and whose families' prestige was important to take with them. Slaves in the United States secretly gave themselves surnames in order to maintain a sense of family but they did not use those surnames around whites. Years after emancipation, blacks born during the era of slavery remained reluctant to tell white people their full names.

The "slave names" fallacy is false not only because whites did not give slaves surnames but also because the names that blacks gave themselves were not simply the names of whoever owned them. During the era of slavery, it was common to choose other names. Otherwise, if all the families belonging to a given slave owner took his name, that would defeat the purpose of creating separate family identities.

Anyone know if this is true? LastDodo (talk) 09:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found some sources that back up the essence of what Sowell is saying here. I went ahead and altered the article accordingly. LastDodo (talk) 16:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

sources to blogs[edit]

there's a statistic sourced to a blog that was removed. Augmented Seventh (talk) 15:06, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]