Talk:Prizren

Language in official use

In 2007 and 2008, the municipalities of Gjilan/Gnjilane, southern Mitrovicë/Mitrovica, Prishtinë/Priština and Vushtrri/Vučitrn also recognized Turkish as a language in official use [1] means that Kosovan citizens of Turkish origin can ask for administrative and municipal services in their mother tongue. It doesn't refer to the status of Turkish as an official language of the municipality.--Maleschreiber (talk) 16:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Maleschreiber: I would ask not to distort the facts. Go read page 6 please: Exceptionally, the Law on the Use of Languages gives Turkish the status of an official language in the municipality of Prizren, irrespective of the size of the Turkish community living there. and you said means that Kosovan citizens of Turkish origin can ask for administrative and municipal services in their mother tongue. which is indeed a definition of an official language. Beshogur (talk) 16:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Also here uses on roadsigns and [2] [3] [4], even using the abbreviations like sk. (sokak street), cad. (cadde lane). Beshogur (talk) 16:56, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Beshogur: The Law on the Use of Languages gives Turkish official status irrespective of the size of the Turkish community in terms of administrative services. It doesn't mean that Turkish is used in general as an official language. You may ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kosovo for other opinions about the Law on the Use of Languages.--Maleschreiber (talk) 17:18, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Demographics

The demographics section starts talking about historical ethnic composition from 1200s onwards seemingly out of nowhere without context. What is the relevance of some historical Ottoman headcount from 600+ years ago? Relevance and importance need to be added, otherwise it needs to be removed.

The section also completely glosses over the huge drop in population from 1991(375k) to 2011(175k). The dramatic drop needs to be explained and addressed. 100.4.105.230 (talk) 18:51, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Lead

Bigger change to the lead, mainly due to its lack of reflection to the article's content.

• Removed/added regional rulers who ruled Kosovo after 1371. I added Mrnjavčević, removed Hrebeljanović and Dukagjini and kept Balšić and Branković. Hrebeljanović dynasty only ruled Moravian Serbia during this period. No RS could explain Dukagjini having control of Prizren during the brief period between 1371 and the integration of Prizren into District of Branković (1373-1395).

• Removed "the area below the fortress which overlooks the Bistrica river on its left bank. Since the 16th century, economic development fueled the expansion of the city's neighbourhoods to river's right bank". Reason includes lack of relevance for the lead.

• Added content about the town's political importance for the Albanian community in the 19th century. Reason include the lead's lack of reflection on the article's body.

• Added content about the town's religious prevalence. Reasons are the same as above.

--Azor (talk). 16:07, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Regarding names

Shpenadi, Gjinoc, Caparc and many of these villages mentioned as Albanian in 14th century in Prizren bore non-Albanian names even in the 16th century yet we know they were Albanian. Lubizhde in Prizren I believe bore non-Albanian names in 15th century but 16th century had other type of Albanian names which became common in some areas in the 16th century and were therefor Albanian possibly. Celina, Medvec, Krajk and many of these too bore Albanian names in 16th century. The Has region and Junik-Gjakove region had in the 15th century people with a mixture of Albanian, Slavic and Christian names and most of these were Albanian. They used other type of Albanian names in the 16th century. 'Leshan' in Prizren is an Albanian toponym as is Zhur for example. 'Leshan' is also a village in Peja region mentioned in the 15th century whom bore non-Albanian names, same as the village Voksh mentioned as 'Vokshiq' but also had non-Albanian names yet were Albanian. Really, I'd add most of these villages in the Has, Prizren and Gjakova area as Albanian TheCreatorOne (talk) 04:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello

In the Prizren area, in 1348 nine Albanian villages were mentioned, these same villages were mentioned in the 16th century, although they did not have typical Albanian names we know they were Albanians. Some of these were also mentioned in 1485 and some had a mix of Albanian Slavic names , some villages in 1485 in the Prizren area contained people with Albanian-Slavic names. There is also the 1452 document which shows the neighboring has region had an Albanian population . Then there is the 16th century register for the Has region itself. Then there is the 16th century registers for Prizren itself where the Albanians had either Albanian names or a mixture of Slavic-Albanian names or Slavic . All these taken together I have figured out this area has had a significant Albanian population since the medieval period, names are always open to doubt and an Albanian could of had a Slavic name. If someone wants to add more information to make it more accurate be free to do so. TheCreatorOne (talk) 16:31, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Jirecek

You mean Jirecek (and Sufflay), the guy who claimed Albanians were located no more east than Prizren until the 18th century then are supposed to of migrated from there after the so called mass exodus of serbs ? Yeah, not exactly a guy to be taken very serious considering this theory has already been debunked, so has the so called great migration of Serbs, so I don't know why that part isn't removed ? No point in keep quoting all these outdated researchers , it's like trying to argue that the earth is flat when there is so much evidence that goes against it. Why don't you look into other researchers that point out that Shkupi in Macedonia and Nish follow Albanian phonetic laws for example and in fact evidence shows those areas had an Albanian population since the medieval period. TheCreatorOne (talk) 23:47, 1 February 2024 (UTC)