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Rudolf Steiner[edit]

Rudolf Steiner has said that the Age of Aquarius will be in 3573. For him, each Age is 2160 years long. We are now in the Age of Pisces, since 1413. (read french page wikipedia for more details). In the Age of pisces, people have to develop their own individuality. In the next Age of Aquarius, people can have a spiritual brotherhood but not now. If the brotherhood comes now, the inividuality will not be strong enough for that. Rudolf Steiner has spoken about two great spiritual events : the return of Christ in etherical world (and not in a physical body), because people must develop their faculties until they can reach the etherical world; and the incarnation of Ahriman on earth. Ahriman is the spirit who has interest only with physical, mineral, intelligence and calcul. He will try to block the evolution of humanity. Vladimir Soloviev speaks too of this event. He has said that Antechrist will bring peace on earth, give food for all and makes an unique religion. The actuality is good to receive a false savior, who will use the false think that we are now in the age of aquarius.

I have seen this information before - but to in include it in this topic we need citation(s) with page numbers. Have you got a source? Terry Macro (talk) 01:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're both out of your minds. And it's 5373, not 3573. Everyone knows that. An age is relative correlated to the actual Y-time needed for a semi-rotatlon of the Galaxy. Get a clue.

Source : "Vivons-nous les commencements de l'Ere des Poissons" - pages : 143-155 - Author : Christian Lazaridès - Editions anthroposophiques romandes - 1989 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.220.141.251 (talk) 12:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

astrological ages based on precession of the equinoxes have nothing to do with the semi-rotatlon of the Galaxy Terry Macro (talk) 00:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would be better to say that Christian Lazaridès said that Steiner said 3575 . . ., but even better to omit the statement. Steiner gave 3575 as the end of the consciousness soul age, which is something different. Source: From Symptom to Reality in Modern History — Symptomatology of Recent Centuries, GA 185, Lecture II,

19 October 1918, Dornach.

"It presents — in the form of slogans applied haphazardly and indiscriminately to the whole human being — that which must gradually be developed in the course of the epoch of the Consciousness Soul, from 1413 to the year 3573, with all the spiritual resources at man's disposal."

About the age of aquarius, I find two mentions. Reporting on the content of the Mystery Schools of Zarathustra, in THE SPIRITUAL HIERARCHIES, GA 110, Lecture VI, Düsseldorf, April 15, 1909:

"We know Christ came during Pisces, which began 270 B.C. Add 2150 years and" [working from Zarathustra's calculations] "we get the following: —

• 2420 B.C. as the beginning of Aries,

• 4570 B.C. as the beginning of Taurus,

• 6720 B C. as the beginning of Gemini.

Since our year 1881 we are under Aquarius."

And without an estimated year,

from a talk 3 March 1923, Dornach:

"Now we have the Vernal Point in the Fishes, as I have told you. Previously it was in the Ram, Aries. After some time it will be in Aquarius . . ." 2600:1702:3650:2650:4C90:58BC:65B8:544D (talk) 20:46, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Old Comments[edit]

The section entitled The Age of Aquarius according to Spiritual astrology does not seem to fit with the rest of the article. It repeats content given earlier and seems to be a promotion of a particular society. I suggest the section is removed. Any thoughts to the contrary? Arcturus 23:18, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I have rewrited the article combining the old texts. Hope it is fine. English is not my mothertongue so it is possible some sentences might not be so clear as I intended. The section entitled The Age of Aquarius according to Spiritual astrology was not intended as promotion but to present notions (commonly accepted by studious astrologers) backed on one of the proeminent schools, through all 20th century, of astrology in the western countries. Calculus of Astrology are based on Astronomy motions of sun and planets, etc, which require study and lots of maths! The Astrology (Solar) Ages are based on Astrology calculus, if one does not accept Astrology there is no point for this person talking about the Age of Aquarius or any other since it only can be identified, targeted and its effects described through Astrology notions and calculus. Please see external links --GalaazV 19:01, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hemispheres[edit]

If the astrological age is determined by the position of the sun at the vernal equinox, then does that mean that the southern hemisphere is in a different age? If the sun is passing through Aquarius at the northern hemisphere's vernal equinox, then it's passing through Leo at the southern hemisphere's vernal equinox. ~ MD Otley (talk) 19:32, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]