Talk:Guided by Voices

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VFD[edit]

Article listed on WP:VFD July 6 to July 14 2004, consensus was to keep. Discussion:

Re: Guided by Voices

NPOV mess, repeated target for vandalism, is this an encyclopedic article? RickK 21:07, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

  • Keep. Perfectly encyclopedic and largely factual/neutral (which obviously wasn't the case a week or two ago). What is there to object to in this article? --rbrwrˆ 21:31, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Uh, keep, real and famous band. Everyking 23:43, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • What Everyking said. Why is this here? Ambivalenthysteria 03:51, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep - needs a little NPOV and TLC, but not deletion. -Sean Curtin 05:06, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
  • KEEP. Not sure why this has been repeatedly been targeted for changes and deletion... especially with recent changes in place. This entry remained wacky for months and months until a flurry of recent interest (including that of RickK).

End discussion

GbV versus GBV[edit]

Isn't the spelling Guided By Voices?

I don't think prepositions are capitalized in titles. Deleuze 02:27, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The band's name appears as Guided By Voices on Do the Collapse, the only album where the name isn't in either all capital or all lowercase letters. QuentinJamstar 01:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How the name is capitalized on album covers is mostly irrelevant. Wikipedia policy is to normalize capitalization of band names. See WP:NC#Album titles and band names. --PEJL 09:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i changed "bestselling" to "legendary" because Bee Thousand was not a bestselling album. Sommeone else can change the adjective if they think of a better one. As long as it's not bestselling.


One tends to think that "influential" would have taken care of it... I haven't dug out my case for Bee Thousand lately, but i'm willing to bet it's Guided by Voices, hence the GbV. iamandrewssoul

"Influential" is a bit more... what's the word... encyclopia-ish, in that it can be referenced that the album influenced a number of artists. I don't know of any sources that prove that, but I'm sure they're out there. --JerryLewisOverdrive 03:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Former band members[edit]

The list of former band members is a little short, isn't it? :-)

Incorrect number of albums?[edit]

Half Smiles of the Decomposed is supposed to be the 15th album, but on this article I count 16? - Maarten (Talk) 18:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't think Tonics & Twisted Chasers is counted (considering that on their respective pages it says that Under the Bushes is the 9th and Do the Collapse is the 11th, and Mag Earwig! and Tonics & Twisted Chasers fell between those two) QuentinJamstar 01:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New photo[edit]

I think we need a new photo of the band, as Bob is barely featured in it, and Bob has been the only constant GBV member - ZEROpumpkins 08:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's really strange to have the GBV picture not featuring Bob. QuentinJamstar (talk) 03:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Any new photo is fine, as long as it's free license. I recommend looking through Flickr. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 03:29, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And a year and half later?! I know nothing about sorting out photos .. surely someone does? --Nickhh (talk) 13:20, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GBV[edit]

GBV is also the abbreviation of the northern German library consortium. Kdammers (talk) 05:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Jellyfish Reflector (Live Album)[edit]

Guided By Voices does not mention this album, which was a 1996 semi-bootleg release and live album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.41.249 (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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The Band Timeline seems broken or messed up[edit]

All references to the band begin in the year 1983 but the timeline currently begins in 1975 and the first members beyond Pollard join in about 1978. Not sure what's up with it but I don't know enough about the band to attempt to correct it. TheoGB (talk) 04:48, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So the band's first recording is Little Jimmy The Giant heard on Suitcase: Failed Experiments And Trashed Aircraft and it was recorded in 1975. There has been different variations of the band named many different names until 1986. Freefalling660 (talk) 00:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This should be made clear then. Right now it's an apparent contradiction, as TheoGB indicates. I started listening to the band in the early 90s and don't know enough about the very early days to write it up accurately. 2604:2000:EFC0:2:4DF6:6328:1154:9482 (talk) 18:03, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More Timeline The timeline ends in 2005. The band did not. All sorts of lineups have come and gone since then. Would be great if someone with a good grasp of the detail could update things. RobotBoy66 (talk) 06:44, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline of What?

The timeline cites GBVDB, but doesn't point to a specific piece of research. It appears to be a random compilation of (1) people who have been official members of the band (especially in the later period), (2) people who have been credited as performers but never band members (e.g. engineer Steve Wilbur, who contributed some guitar while recording the band, or Bruce Smith, who played on some early tracks and played drums in the pre-GBV metal band Anacrusis, but was never in this band), and (3) what people play live over what they do on record (e.g., ignoring Bob's contributions to records in favor of his sole live role as singer).

The bigger questions is what is this a timeline of? Official members? The live band? Contributors to recordings? They're all different things. If you went by officially credited band members by release, for example, you'd see Peyton Eric and Kevin Fennell switch back and forth for a few years, and oddities like GBV having only three members in 1993: Bob Pollard, Jim Pollard, and Tobin Sprout. Dionusios (talk) 19:39, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up: This seems in part to actually be based on the GBV Family Tree prepared by a graphic designer for Jim Greer's book, but this is a wholly unreliable source. Here are just a few glaring problems with the family tree: it includes Steve Wilbur as a band member; Ed Jon is misidentified as Ed Dwyer; Bruce Smith is credited on bass for Anacrusis when he actually played drums; the Needmores are listed as a 1987 side project, when we know through live recordings and other testimony that the Needmores date to 1984 and possibly 1985 with a different lineup; Tobin Sprout's band fig. 4 is marked as ending in 1985 but they were active when they released their lone LP in 1987 as part of the Gotham City Music Collective along with GBV and the New Creatures; Coyote Call is given as a 1982 band but their unreleased album, Pissing in the Canal, was recorded in 1984. (They probably just confused Coyote Call with the Crowd.) Dionusios (talk) 23:47, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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