Talk:United States order of precedence

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Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation[edit]

Is the FBI Director in the order of precedence?73.110.217.186 (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The director of the FBI is placed under "Heads of federal departmental agencies", per the official list. Weirdly, the deputy director has an individually listed placement, but the director doesn't. Sbb618 (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Judges in Senior Status[edit]

The list mentions Chief judges and circuit judges of the United States Courts of Appeals (by length of service) and Chief judges and district judges of the United States District Courts (by length of service), but does that include judges who have taken Senior Status? There's a section for retired Supreme Court justices, but nothing for lower court judges.73.110.217.186 (talk) 21:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Justices Retired but not resigned?[edit]

What does this mean? "Retired Associate Justices of the Supreme Court, unless they resigned" Don't you retire when you resign? Unless it means impeached? Sir Joseph ^(talk) 00:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sir Joseph: A justice who "retires," after meeting minimum age and service requirements, continues to be paid, can sit by designation on lower courts, and may not engage in private law practice. A justice who "resigns" is a private citizen again. See Supreme Court of the United States#Retired justices. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:28, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks that makes sense, so this is Senior status (sort of, different than other judges), I presume. I'll see if we have a page on this and link it. Also, would this then need to be modified: "Retired Chief Justices of the United States (ranked by date of appointment; currently none)" to include "unless resigned" or is there a special cutout for that role? I just took a look at the two pages and only AJSCOTUS has a section on retirement/resignation, not CJSCOTUS. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 15:01, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Sir Joseph: Yes, it's basically the same thing as "senior status" for Supreme Court Justices, although the customary terminology is different, and also a retired Supreme Court justice can thereafter sit by designation only on lower courts, as opposed to senior circuit or district judges, who can continue in service on the same courts they've served on in the past (as well as by designation on other courts). I don't know specifically how they are slotting into the order of precedence, though. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:11, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands Delegate[edit]

Why is Gregorio Sablan, the delegate for the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, omitted from the list under number 32? The Governor Ralph Torres is included. Why not the Congressional delegate? Was this an accidental omission by mistake? Or has the delegate from the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands been snubbed for some other reason? 66.91.36.8 (talk) 07:51, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Governors of US Territories[edit]

Why does Puerto Rico Governor Pedro Pierluisi take precedence over Guam Governor Lou Leon Guerrero? Both Guam and Puerto Rico became part of the US simultaneously as a result of the Spanish-American War in 1898. Shouldn't the order then be alphabetical as stated in parentheses? Guam precedes Puerto Rico alphabetically since "G" comes before "P." Am I missing something? Are they using the "C" from "Commonwealth of Puerto Rico"? That makes very little sense. Was this a mistake by the author of the article? 66.91.36.8 (talk) 08:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The mistake is from the source cited (on state.gov), whose appendix C has a table of territorial dates of admission that gives 1889 as Puerto Rico's admission date. —75.172.127.187 (talk) 22:41, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]