Talk:Chemise

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No mention of dresses?[edit]

Shift also refers, in common usage, to a simple dress worn as outerwear. This meaning should be covered in this article. Here is the definition as it appears in the Random House dictionary as cited on dictionary.com: "Clothing. a. a straight, loose-fitting dress worn with or without a belt." (See http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shift) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.17.158 (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Origin of smock-frock?[edit]

I have seen sources that suggest the heavy linen smock-frock evolved from the chemise, but I suspect the medieval frock (an outer garment) is a more likely source. Do we have any scholarly research to back this up one way or the other? PKM 01:14, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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--PKM 02:56, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology[edit]

The article currently states:

Chemise is a French term (which today simply means shirt). This is a cognate of the Italian word camicia, and the Spanish / Portuguese word camisa (subsequently borrowed by Hindi / Urdu), all deriving ultimately from the Arabic qamĩṣ.

But I find the idea of an Arabic origin suspect, given that the word already shows up in Late (but still firmly ancient) Latin as camisia.[1] --Iustinus 18:35, August 21, 2007 (UTC).

The OED agrees with you and doesn't mention Arabic at all. I've corrected the etymology accordingly. Vashti 21:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of historical content to article[edit]

Hello! I have made some additions of historical information to the article, charting the changes and developments of the chemise in western dress as an under (and outer!) garment over time. Hope this aids contributions to WikiProject Fashion and WikiProject Women's History.

Thank you! Diary of a Dress Historian (talk) 16:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]