Talk:The Dandy Warhols

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July 27, 2012	Good article nominee	Not listed

Eric Hedford was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 12 November 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into The Dandy Warhols. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Peter Holmström was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 October 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into The Dandy Warhols. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

Brent DeBoer was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 28 October 2011 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into The Dandy Warhols. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Early comments...[edit]

WE could really use some pictures, i mean there has to be at least one? what is the policy on video clip stills?

uhh, is it possible to change the title to The Dandy Warhols instead of just Dandy Warhols? Shakeer 03:10, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Just did so. In the future, you can move pages through the link on the sidebar that says "Move this page". RADICALBENDER ★ 03:12, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This wasn't what i had in mind.. this picture. A. Is in the wrong place B. Doesn't even include Zia. Could we find a better one?

OK, I contacted Capitol Records A&R and was given a page full of promotional photos and got the crediting info and proper licensing. I chose this one (Dandywarhols_1.jpg) because I felt it illustrates all four members of the current group well. Maxxo 23:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

dandys rule ok[edit]

how come this article doesn't mention the debut lp, 'dandys rule ok', or the rejected 'black' album.

"Godless" single chart placing[edit]

The chart placements are fairly accurate, although according to the "Guinness Book of British Hit Singles," the "bible" of all UK chart placements, listed "Godless" as charting briefly on July 7, 2001, peaking at #66. I just noticed it said "ineligible for chart placement" on Wikipedia. Feel free to verify with the chart book, but I'm looking right at it as I write this.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.52.58.168 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, that's strange, the "Godless" single (in CD and 12" editions) has four tracks, and singles with more than three tracks (and/or totalling greater than 20 minutes in length) have been ineligible for inclusion in the singles chart since some time in the mid/late '90s. I'll take your word for it, though -- I assume it must have been an oversight on the part of the chart company.--CapitalLetterBeginning 13:39, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Website section[edit]

The section describing the Dandy's website only has the ridiculous suggestion to vandalize Wikipedia with inaccurate information. Also, the quote is uncited. I would like to see it removed, and will do so if noone objects. GilliamJF 20:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was on their website for a little while, I think in the 'fans' section.

Such vandalism appears to have been done with the unreferenced creation of Peter Loew, a name not used in this article, the merging of the Peter Holmstrom article with it, and the creation of a navigation template. Note that somebody has also tagged this article as unreferencedGene Nygaard 06:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Loew was an aka used by Holmstrom on their recording Welcome To The Monkey House. It was to pay homage to hiw wife's surname. --Satyricrash 23:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Thirteen Tales.jpg[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Welcome To The Monkey House.jpg[edit]

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Undeclared[edit]

The show was so short lived and kind of a long time ago relatively speaking, so I can't remember, but wasn't their track 'Solid' the theme song for it, and shouldn't it be included at the bottom in the list of pop culture uses?? President David Palmer 17:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified, possibly damaging claims[edit]

I reverted the article, removing this addition: "Although 'Bohemian Like You' was a massive benefit to the Dandy Warhols, it should be noted that 'Little Bitch' by The Specials is a major influence on the single."

Since the user also inserted "~The Dandy Warhols borrowed 'Little Bitch' for 'Bohemian Like You'." on Specials I imagine this is something the user cares about personally. If there are independent sources that can be cited for this (Please consult Wikipedia:Reliable_sources), please feel free to reinsert the text with appropriate citations. Otherwise, it's best to err on the side of not including potentially damaging allegations on wikipedia pages.

LaPrecieuse (talk) 22:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

citation what?[edit]

someone put a "citation needed" label on whether the BJM were an influence to the Dandies. well isn't this http://www.myspace.com/thedandywarhols some proof, considering it's the band's page and it exactly refers BJM in the Influences section? do you need a scientific publication about Dandies to call it a reference? ... CuteHappyBrute (talk) 06:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Dandy Warhols/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ritchie333 (talk · contribs) 13:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've started reviewing this, but I've immediately run into a problem that I cannot find a reliable source for Courtney Taylor-Taylor being named as such. The Dandy Warhols FAQ as referenced here states, verbatim, "THe FAQ is currently unavailable, because I was too damn lazy to remember to update it, so it is way out of date. I plan on updating it, but we'll see.". To me, that screams out "unreliable source". --Ritchie333 (talk) 13:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a further look through and spotted some more issues :

The first reference, which is used to cite the entire history of the band forming, is a Facebook page. Even if a FB page is "officially" supported by the band, it can still be considered questionable, as it tends to repeat official information presented elsewhere, or user generated content (which is unreliable).

"well-known for their nudity-filled live shows" absolutely needs a citation. I don't have the source anymore but I certainly recall an interview with Q Magazine c. 1997 which stated certain band members had only performed topless "a couple of times".

"popular single" is a subjective term - should be changed to either "charting single" (with a citation to the chart position) or "single".

The use of Bohemian Like You in a Vodafone advert is unreferenced - shouldn't be hard to find one.

The reference to the film "9 songs" is problematic - the line here is unreferenced and the linked article is tagged as requiring secondary sources.

The "musical style" section is completely unreferenced, and could be argued to be original research. Unless you can find a magazine article (for example) that goes into the band's musical style in depth, I wouldn't worry about having this section.

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
Too much of the article is unreferenced or is referenced to unreliable sources, particularly the Facebook page. See if there are other news outlets that can support the information presented here.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
The article is broadly neutral, though I have noticed a few puff words/
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
I'm afraid there is too much unreferenced or badly referenced content to qualify as a GA at this time. Sorry.

Sorry about that. Thanks for your contributions for the page, though, and please resubmit to GA when you think the issues I've raised have been readdressed --Ritchie333 (talk) 15:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that the "synthpop" genre be changed to "new wave", because I think it is more accurate.[edit]

139.216.98.12 (talk) 12:52, 23 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Nero's Rome[edit]

There should be a mention of Nero's Rome somewhere on this article. It was a predecessor band to TDW. Leitmotiv (talk) 22:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]