Talk:Pronunciation

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I suggest include the information the user need to interpret what appears in www.wiktionary.org in the section of pronunciation of every word.

One could copy this article to wiktionary too.Mac 16:12 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)

Well, the article doesn't say a lot so far... The last edit was by a rank amateur, I gather. :) Feel free to improve it if you want to! -- Oliver P. 16:34 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)

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someone should make a pronounciation key. Kingturtle 00:50 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)

Spelling

Pronounciation is a mispelling (based on the spelling of forms like 'pronounce' etc), right? The redirect is classified as {{R from misspelling}}, though that was questioned. If it is a legitimate alternative spelling it should be given in bold, though I can find no evidence that this is the case. Richard001 (talk) 07:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

You're right, it's a common misspelling - Rothorpe (talk) 14:44, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Come on, it must be written "pronounciation" (that's how it's pronounced too). It's not a misconception, the word derives from "noun" -- not from "nun". I wouldn't even say that "pronunciation" is a common misspelling, because I've never seen it before. LarRan (talk) 09:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Come on yourself! The word is unconnected to "noun". It is from the Latin pronuntiatio, from pro (forth) + nuntiare (report) -- meaning "report forth, proclaim, declare, speak, ...pronounce", from nuntius ("messenger"). Would you also have us say that when something is renounced it amounts to a "renounciation" or that someone who is denounced suffers a "denounciation"? --Picapica (talk) 08:19, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

According to the Wiktionary article on "Pronunciation", it is correct and from the Latin "pronuntiatio"72.236.6.70 (talk) 22:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

The Concise Oxford Dictionary Tenth Edition even goes as far as adding a special note with this word: "The word pronunciation is often pronounced, by analogy with pronounce, as if the second syllable rhymed with bounce. This is not correct in standard English: the standard pronunciation has the second syllable rhyming with dunce." hrf (talk) 09:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Song 2 by blur

is too sick — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.105.170 (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Racism

It's racist how this article says pronunciation can infer ethnicity how one speaks. This surely isn't true and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.164.29 (talk) 01:31, 15 October 2012 (UTC) m It is not racist. It is fact. It has nothing to do with prejudice. It has to do with linguistics. Rod Lockwood (talk) 21:14, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

What Is Missing

I came here hoping to find rules that determine how loan/new words in English is pronounced by the way they are spelled. Unfortunately, all that is here so far states the obvious then goes into phonetics which is not the same thing.

If this article is to have meaning, it needs someone with a knowledge of the spelling/pronunciation rules for English to finish it. I state English here since this is the English version of Wikipedia. On the other hand, maybe in each language (but especially English since it is so complex) there should be a section on pronunciation rules (if there is not already). In which case, this article should point to the various sections of each language. Rod Lockwood (talk) 21:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Social class?

The article suggests that the way a person's speaks is a sign of "social class". Social class is a man-made construct, that creates castes. Although some people do pronounce words a particular way, and it can indicate their social-class, such a rule is not definitive. The wikipedia article should indicate: Pronunciation can be indicative of a person's social class, but judging a person's social/ class value based on pronunciation is a prejudice that humanity must evolve away from.--68.173.189.62 (talk) 14:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Etymology - Pronunciation vs. 'Pronounciation'

I believe that it would be beneficial to include an Etymology section discussing the common and ironic mispronunciation of 'pronunciation' as 'pronounciation.' This has been noted on the Urban Dictionary [1] (I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy on using such sites as references,) but I have also come across this misconception in my own experience, and it has already been mentioned on this talk page. However, none of this has been added to the actual article section and I think this should be remedied. Luke.wilson59 (talk) 22:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)