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Since he received the Lansdowne title after his premiership and when he was effectively retired from politics, should he not be at William Petty, 2nd Earl of Shelburne? Timrollpickering 08:11, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

This one I'd forgotten about - since no-one has posted can I suggest that if no-one objects in the next three days that I move the page? Timrollpickering 07:56, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

New file File:John Dunning, 1st Baron Ashburton; Isaac Barré; William Petty, 1st Marquess of Lansdowne (Lord Shelburne) by Sir Joshua Reynolds.jpg[edit]

Recently the file File:John Dunning, 1st Baron Ashburton; Isaac Barré; William Petty, 1st Marquess of Lansdowne (Lord Shelburne) by Sir Joshua Reynolds.jpg (right) was uploaded and it appears to be relevant to this article and not currently used by it. If you're interested and think it would be a useful addition, please feel free to include it. Dcoetzee 22:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source for Religion: Dissenter[edit]

Does anyone have more details about the claim Religion Dissenter? What specific sect did he belong to? --Gary123 (talk) 06:06, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I echo this question, five years on. It would be interesting to know the denomination, and when he professed membership of it. Anglo-Irish 'Ascendancy' families were usually Anglican or more precisely Church in Ireland (disestablished in 1868). I would raise a citation need if I could make it fit in the Infobox.Cloptonson (talk) 15:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked his long biography in the ODNB (2004) but find no reference to his religion at all.Cloptonson (talk) 12:11, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Name changes etc[edit]

We say he was born William Fitzmaurice, but his father later changed the family surname to Petty in place of Fitzmaurice. So our man became William Petty. But we continue to refer to him as Fitzmaurice until he inherited the Earldom of Shelburne. Why? Is it because the family name was not changed until after he became earl?

Next, the article title is William Petty, 2nd Earl of Shelburne. That makes sense in itself, but it clashes with the lede, where he's introduced as William Petty Fitzmaurice, 1st Marquess of Lansdowne. What's going on here? Wasn't the Fitzmaurice name dropped in favour of Petty? I could understand if Fitzmaurice was retained as a middle name, but not Petty, which was supposed to have become his new surname. I'm terribly confused by all this. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 08:51, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

His father's article (John Petty, 1st Earl of Shelburne) suffers from similar confusion. His older son's article (John Petty, 2nd Marquess of Lansdowne) uses "Petty", but his Alumni Oxonienses entry uses "FitzMaurice". His younger son Henry Petty-Fitzmaurice, 3rd Marquess of Lansdowne and his descendants were known by the double-barrelled version. LookLook36 (talk) 20:52, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]