Talk:José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia

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Wasn't Francia just a dictator? In that case, I think this article would be too positive. 80.61.232.49 21:22, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yup. Check the external link for a start to editing. Then Google him... Wetman 04:51, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

move[edit]

This article should be moved to José Gaspar Rodríguez de Francia -- that is, with the accent marks. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk)]] 04:17, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)

Not sure where the December 25th date of death came from. Every source I could find said Sept. 20th, so I changed it to that. Everyking 03:45, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I found it in a book about Paraguay; I can't remember the title and am far more inclined to believe your sources. Warofdreams 11:15, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Huh! Well, next time I'm at the library I'll go through some books on Paraguay and see if I can find any evidence in favor of that date. Everyking 19:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It was At the Tomb of the Inflatable Pig: Travels through Paraguay by John Gimlette. Lots of information on Paraguay, some first hand, but it didn't give the impression of being carefully researched, having few references. Warofdreams 11:18, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

OK, well, I could only find one book that mentioned his date of death, and it said Sept. 20. I don't want to be responsible for adding an error, but I think that's the right date. Everyking 12:45, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Actually At the Tomb of the Inflatable Pig wouldn't be that great of a source since it doesn't mention any sources for the historical remarks or references it makes. I'd label that book Vanity Press rather than a scholar material. Veritiel (talk) 19:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dictador, Caudillo and Roa Bastos[edit]

In an interview dated from 1978 ([1]), Roa Bastos explains that his book is not a historical book, no relation with reality should be clearly extracted from it. Considering that, I think that the note at the end of the article is not accurate. BTW, in the same interview Roa Bastos states that Francia had some "good things" (simplifiyng everything too much), he was not just a dictator as stated by the anonymous contributor in this discussion page. I can't explain the argument here, because my english is very limited, but Roa Bastos states that historical perspective of Francia government has been disordered by his followers at the power. He states several things worth noting: Francia had popular support; Paraguay was object of a isolation politic from other countries; Francia fought against aristocrathics interests in Paraguay, doing some kind of revolution in his country. Someone with enough criteria and understanding of Latinamerican politics could help reading the interview and adding some information here. Regards, --Jdiazch 21:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Outside interference[edit]

In ref. to the first paragraph: either he had little or no outside interference... which was it?--Jickyincognito 18:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Francia's origins[edit]

It's not common sense that the father of Francia was from São Paulo. Although he had never denied it, we cannot claim it as simply truth. I've read the Doratioto's "Maldita Guerra" (sorry, I don't know the title in english, but is a acclaimed book about the Triple Alliance/ Paraguayan War) and he says, in the "references" part, about the discussion concerning Francia's father origins. One of the versions is this one, claiming his "paulista" origins, but there is another one saying he may have been a portuguese merchant established in Rio de Janeiro city. Doratioto's source for this one is the following: "Ensayo sobre el dr. Francia y la dictadura en Sudamérica, 2ª ed. rev. y aum., Assunção, Cromos, 1985, p.105"

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G1990 (talk • contribs) 07:35, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Comments[edit]

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Paraguay declared independence from Spain twice?[edit]

Or so it says in the Political Career section. This is entirely possible, but if so the article needs a sentence or two describing why Paraguay indeed needed to do so again. Otherwise it should presumably be removed. 24.212.189.162 (talk) 03:18, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

De Francia ordering that he officiate all weddings personally?[edit]

The article says that he ordered that he personally officiate all weddings. This would be significant if true as this is a whole nation and that would be incredibly impracticle. There is no source cited for that fact, does anyone know where it came from? I'd like to check it. Zane303712 (talk) 15:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]