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Year created in infobox[edit]

If you search on the internet, "when was SATA introduced," you will get conflicting answers. After digging a little bit deeper into this article and its sources, I gather that the correct story is that SATA was announced at the Intel Developer Conference in 2000, but at the time the specification wasn't finished and so the technology wasn't actually out yet. Then, version 1.0 of the spec was released in 2003, and that's when it was in a ready state and people could actually start making SATA drives. Is my understanding of the story correct?

If it is, I think it would make sense to put 2003 as the year created in the infobox (currently it says 2000). It sounds to me like in 2000, SATA was in a state equivalent to when someone has conceptualized, designed, a new invention, but hasn't made anything yet. I would argue that SATA in this state hadn't been invented yet, especially since it is not a physical thing but rather a specification for people to implement.

If there were working prototypes of a drive and motherboard conforming to SATA in 2000 or before 2003, I might say that it had been invented then. But if that's the case, I think the article should also mention those prototypes.

Thoughts? I think this is a gray area (at least with my current knowledge).

Mariachiband49 (talk) 02:58, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIR, Seagate shipped the first SATA drive in 2002, pre-standard. We'd need a source for that though. --Zac67 (talk)

06:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

There are multiple sources that Seagate shipped in 2002 devices that were compliant with the then current in process version of SATA. It was common for HDDs to ship before any formal spec was published; in fact early on most specifications got published long after the first drive shipped, think IDE, or if at all, think ST-506. the date is almost a WP:SKYISBLUE issue. Tom94022 (talk) 21:58, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"AT"[edit]

It is interesting and somewhat frustrating to find that readers of this page are presumably assumed to already know what "AT" stands for. Why not just come right out and say what it means? BrianAlex (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, maybe because this comment is embedded in the source wikitext for the page? wbm1058 (talk) 13:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The source, citation 7 "https://ecse.rpi.edu/courses/S15/ECSE-4780/Labs/IDE/IDE_SPEC.PDF" is no longer hosted, and doesn't exist on the internet archive. Meanwhile, IEEE and Intel, along with the United States National Institute of Standards and Technology and 3M all state that it is Serial Advanced Technology Attachment.

My sources are:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9295094

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/serial-ata/serial-ata-developer.html

https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/serial_advanced_technology_attachment

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00036228/ SRSchiavone (talk) 05:26, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editors: PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE "AT Attachment" to "Advanced Technology Attachment" !!! The relevant standards simply say "AT Attachment". It is NEVER written out as "Advanced Technology Attachment", except in error. That's not the official name, as documented in the spec, linked below. Any "online dictionaries" or other sources that say otherwise are simply wrong; the spec is a "horse's mouth" reference and no other interpretation is possible. (The same is true of Parallel ATA.)
REPEAT: "AT Attachment" IS CORRECT and absolutely should not be expanded to "Advanced Technology Attachment".

You just need to read below the fold: Serial ATA § History:

Before SATA's introduction in 2000, PATA was simply known as ATA. The "AT Attachment" (ATA) name originated after the 1984 release of the IBM Personal Computer AT, more commonly known as the IBM AT. The IBM AT's controller interface became a de facto industry interface for the inclusion of hard disks. "AT" was IBM's abbreviation for "Advanced Technology"; thus, many companies and organizations indicate SATA is an abbreviation of "Serial Advanced Technology Attachment". However, the ATA specifications simply use the name "AT Attachment", to avoid possible trademark issues with IBM.

Somehow this should be summarized in the lead to lessen confusion. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 November 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved per quick and clear consensus. PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serial ATA → SATA – SATA is the WP:COMMONNAME of this subject. It already redirects here. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:45, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Everyone calls it SATA. JIP | Talk 00:17, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom—blindlynx 02:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

External links[edit]

There were elevem entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.

ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
WP:ELMIN: Minimize the number of links.
WP:ELCITE: access dates are not appropriate in the external links section. Do not use {{cite web}} or other citation templates in the External links section. Citation templates are permitted in the Further reading section.
WP:ELBURDEN: Disputed links should be excluded by default unless and until there is a consensus to include them. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]