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US Navy?[edit]

The British navy adopted their blue uniform in 1748, before the US navy was even set up (and before the US itself was created!) therefore the colour must be named after the British Navy not the US Navy.

In the Navy, navy blue is black.[edit]

US Navy "blue" uniforms are actually black (not just dark blue and look black in poor light; I have one next to me as I write this). This fact is acknowledged in Uniforms of the United States Navy (where they are called 'Johnny Cash' uniforms: the singer was known for dressing in black). However, my personal knowledge of actual uniforms constitutes original research, so I didn't correct this until I could find an OPNAV Bulletin that could be cited. This Bulletin refers only to women's uniforms; if someone can find the corresponding change directive for men's uniforms, please add the reference. The change was made decades ago, so the original directives may not be available online. I wasn't going to change it for Canadian Navy uniforms, but in looking for information on the US found that Canadian "navy blue" is also black.MayerG (talk) 05:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But probably not originally, as in the British navy where the term comes from. Almost all apparently black articles of traditional uniforms in the British military (not just the navy) are actually extremely dark blue (There's the trem "dress blues" for what appear to be black items of clothing). This can be see by simply comparing the fabric side by side with something that is actually black. Most likely the US and Canadian navies just simplified their uniform requirements due to supply issues. OzoneO (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Navy blue has always been black, or as close as was possible. "Black" (as we understand it today) was hard to dye without it being fugitive. In particular, it tended to fade to brown. The best solution for this, before modern dyes, was to dye the fabric blue with indigo first, before dying it black. With inevitable fading, this then revealed the underlying blue, rather than the brown of the faded black dye. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:55, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Change in the popular meaning of the colour[edit]

Originally navy blue meant a dark, almost black blue. Today clothes that are ladled "Navy blue" are considerably lighter, as in the example of the hex colours listed on this article. As a graphic designer when I get asked for something in "navy blue" I know they only mean "dark blue", or what used to be described as "royal navy', which was fabric that mixed navy blue coloured thread with royal blue coloured thread to create an intermediate shade- it was this fabric colour that probably evolved into what we currently think of as Navy blue. I'd add that to the article, but I'm not sure how to word it or find the sources. This is knowledge I've gained in the pint/graphic design/ industry.OzoneO (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Right Hex.[edit]

The hex for Navy Blue is not 000080 but 000018 instead so please don't change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.182.193.102 (talk) 04:13, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what the cited source says. And unless you have a reliable source that agrees with your figure, you cannot change it. Even then, the entire box would need to be changed. Please stop edit warring against the sources and consensus. You may be blocked. oknazevad (talk) 14:47, 20 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resene Colour List[edit]

The Link is invalid and leads to a hosting holding page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.130.241 (talk) 03:14, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]