Talk:Japanese martial arts titles

Are you quite sure Sensei only (correctly) refers to teachers in martial arts? I was sure the term was correctly used in Go too... Evercat 22:01 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)

AFAIK, with my limited Japanese, sensei refers to about any person teaching any given subject to students. It is common practice in Japanese to call the teacher not by his/her name but simply use sensei. --synthetik 16:36 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK, I looked up my resources again and found that they do use sensei for any teacher in general, but it is not the literal term for "teacher". "kyoushi" means school-teacher literally and "kyouju" refers to a professor. The literal meaning of sensei is "one who lived before", which is roughly equatable to "knowledgeable elder". Blanking the section about only being used for martial arts masters was a good idea since they apparently do not (they even refer to politicians as sensei), but why did you blank the section about living at a dojo. Sensei of martial arts (specifically) do live/work at a dojo. Unless someone has objections, that section is now unblanked.
Emperorbma 18:44 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Not only are these titles used outside of budo. The division of ranks and titles is probably true in a specific art or organisation, but it is not general as this page now implies. / Habj 11:26, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Shihan

Could somebody write a little more on why calling a martial arts teacher sensei would be derogatory?

Its not. I rewrote the section a bit.Peter Rehse 04:21, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

O-sensei

I agree my edit of sensei was a bit clumsy. I changed it initially because it gave the impression that other martial arts besides Aikido refer to Ueshiba M. as O-sensei. Not the case. Even within Aikido it is much more common outside Japan. It still leaves that impression but I'll leave the change to others. DannyWilde I actually started Aikido in Tsukuba way back. Recognize JH from your talk page.Peter Rehse 09:14, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Page is inconsistient

There is still some inconsistiency between this page and the main Japanese titles page. I think the Japanses titles page is more accurate. It may be worthwhile to integrate this page into it. Brianglass 19:22, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree it would be an improvement to merge the page with Japanese titles. // Habj 22:25, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't. There are some titles that are pretty specific to martial arts or at least not that common outside. I vote to leave it as is.Peter Rehse 02:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The page Japanese titles have many subsections for titles in different areas. // Habj 23:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

I wont scream and shout if it is merged - just expressed an opinion. Please go ahead.Peter Rehse 00:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Merged - thanks Brianglass 04:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC)