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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 00:42, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Vive la rose[edit]

Article does not convince me of the song's notability. Only 551 results from the Wikipedia:Google test for the phrase "vive la rose" many of which (including the first hit) do not refer to the song. [Note: I first consulted Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs, as most WikiProjects set guidelines for notability, but they have not come up with anything. Maybe this can serve as precedent?] --DropDeadGorgias (talk) 19:09, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

  • Comment, in reply to the previous one: Where do you think all the other google references to "Vive la rose" come from? From the song. Try googling "Frere jacques". It's the name of a song, but it was so commonly known that it's become the name of a restaurant, a computer virus, etc., etc. You'd be hard-pressed to find a Frenchman who had NOT heard the song Vive la rose. SonicSynergy 20:40, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: I'm not really convinced either. Shouldn't the article mention the performer? Mgm|(talk) 19:23, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - I can't see any justification for this article. Doesn't say why the song is notable. Not even enough information to properly categorise. --Moochocoogle 02:41, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. It appears to be a popular French song by Emile Benoit. In fact, it was his last recording[1]. It was interpreted by several other musicians; this site refers to one such interpretation as "une vieille chanson française interprétée par la suite par Guy Béart pour les enfants"[2]. I wouldn't imagine that French-language songs would be too familiar to those outside the Francophone world, with the possible exceptions of "frere jacques" or "voulez vous couchez avec moi". SonicSynergy 04:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • The article's not convincing, but if you check out some of the actual Google-hit pages, you discover: 1) "Vive la rose" is a 200-year old French folk song. 2) The primary artist mentioned (Emile Benoit) was a "genuine" folk artist (i.e. folk music wasn't his career, but he was the inheritor of an oral tradition of French-Canadian culture in Newfoundland [3]), and the subject of a study that sounds similar to Alan Lomax's field recordings for the Smithsonian Institution in the U.S. So I'd say Keep and let's go find some French or Canadian cultural historians to help turn these into 2 real articles. Soundguy99 07:07, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, this is borderline. Article does not establish notability. Megan1967 07:13, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and Expand. It seems that this song is of cultural significance in Canada. Capitalistroadster 02:22, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep A 200 hundred year old folk song that is still being performed seems notable. Rx StrangeLove 03:43, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep popular songs. Kappa 19:12, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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