Talk:Mount Pentelicus

Greece: Athens Low‑importance

	Greece portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Greece, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Greece on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GreeceWikipedia:WikiProject GreeceTemplate:WikiProject GreeceGreek articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Athens task force.

Mountains Low‑importance

	Mountains portal This article is part of WikiProject Mountains, a project to systematically present information on mountains. If you would like to participate, you can choose to edit the article attached to this page (see Contributing FAQ for more information), or visit the project page where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.MountainsWikipedia:WikiProject MountainsTemplate:WikiProject MountainsMountain articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 2 October 2018 and 15 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jack f t.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 04:32, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editing[edit]

Can someone PLEASE improve the dreadful English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.229.99 (talk) 20:55, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

Is it true that penteli mountain has strange gravitational effects?

There is a road on the mountain that appears to have a slight incline, on which on you can come to a halt in your car, dissengage gears, and will travel forward (up), without motorised assistance. It is believed, that this is in an illusion, known as Gravity hill / Gravity road [[1]] I was in my father's car as a child when we did this 'experiment' on a number of occassions, and despite the fact that he attempted to explain it with a scientific perspective, I found the experience astonishing. The following seems to be the only scientifically authoritative text on the phenomenon, currently available in english on the web [2]

Name?[edit]

I can’t see why this page was renamed to “Penteliko Mountain”. The standard English name seems to be either Pentelikon/Pendelikon, Mount Pentelikon/Pendelikon or Mount Pentelicus as far as I can tell. References to Penteliko elsewhere seem to all derive from this page. This name seems more like an attempt to semi-translate the Greek Πεντελικό Όρος.

The Athens article calls it “Mount Penteli”. This name was added [[3]], presumably because that’s the local name. Previously it was “Pentele”. Wikipedia should use the usual English name.

Pentelikon: Collins English Dictionary

Pendelikon: Merriam Webster (but same dictionary refers only to Mount Pentelicus under entry for pentelic).

Pendelikon (with cross-ref from Pentelikon/Pentelicus): Webster’s New World College Dictionary, Random House Unabridged Dictionary, The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed. 2012

Mount Pentelicus: Encylopædia Britannica (“Mount Pentelicus, also spelled Pentelikon, Modern Greek Pendéli Óros, historically Brilessos, or Brilettos”), Oxford Dictionary (“Pentelic marble: a white marble quarried on Mount Pentelicus near Athens.”)

Google results for “Pentelikon” seem to be largely hotels, so that implies a local but possibly, well-attested, name.

“Pentelicus” produces a lot of results from books and 19th century sources, e.g.

The Mediterranean: An Environmental History 2005
Modernism's History: A Study in Twentieth-century Art and Ideas 1998
Travels With Virginia Woolf(A Dialogue Upon Mount Pentelicus Virginia Woolf 1906)
Library of Entertaining Knowledge, Volume 18 1833
The British Museum: Elgin and Phigaleian marbles, Volume 1 1833
Transactions of the Royal Society of Literature of the United Kingdom, Volume 3 1839.
Fraser's Magazine for Town and Country, Volume 22, Issues 127-132 1840
British Museum: View from Pentelicus 1811
Antique Print Room: GREECE 1870 — Mount Pentelicus, from the height above Marathon, near the haunt of the Greek Brigands.
The Penny Cyclopaedia of the Society for the Difussion of Useful Knowledge, Volume 3 1835: “The most northern part appears to be the ancient Brilessus better known at present under the name of Pentelicus.”
The Works of Lord Byron... 1833

Based on the Encyclopædia Britannica using the name (1911 & now) and the more academic quality of the links found in searching it, I think it would be worth moving this article to Mount Pentelicus and I shall do so in a couple of days if there is no strong case for keeping the current name.

☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 09:59, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

News sources

New York Times: 1 reference to Pendelikon

The Washington Post, The Times, Reuters, Associated Press, & Google News: no results.

Other

Library of Congress: Pentelikon (1 + pentelicon)

Geographic Names Information System: no results.

Google Ngram Viewer

Pentelicus · Mount Pentelicus · Pentelikon · Mount Pentelikon · Pendelikon · Mount Pendelikon (not found)

Combined graph

NB: Pendelikon form is not found in books marked as British English.

All this tends to confirm the view that Pentelicus is the better attested form, although it is maybe more British and historical, while there is some evidence that Pendelikon has been appearing more in the US since 1940.

☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 05:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Mount Pentelicus. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://archive.is/20131016010823/http://www.oreivatein.com/oreivatein/page/mountains/mounts2_8.htm to http://www.oreivatein.com/oreivatein/page/mountains/mounts2_8.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 14:13, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fires Section Is Overemphasized[edit]

I'm not sure that the amount of energy that this article devotes to the fires on Mount Pentelicus is proportionate to their position in the mtn's history. Pentelicus's primary significance is the marble it produces. The fires section should be drastically cut, or the others expanded. I will add a section on the Pentelic marble. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack f t (talk • contribs) 05:27, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]