Talk:14 (number)

It might be my fault, but at some point the line with the Chinese kanji "to die" got messed up and turned into question marks. -- Anonymous User

14 is "an unlucky number in China because it is homonymous with ???? which means "must die"". The Chinese character for death is 死, but I can't write "must die". Sabbut 13:32, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

"In other fields" - what's in, what's out?

In all these number articles, there are lists of occurences of the number in various fields. Some are bordering on the ridiculous, others are not, but drawing this line seems to me to be a matter of individual taste and interest.

In some cases, there is an element of numerology in a particular occurence. I in no way believe in numerology, but I often find it quite interesting. I think it is relevant to have entries indicating how some cultures or subcultures have attached deeper meanings to some numbers. So this may - in my opinion - justify some entries that I'm sure others will find quite irrelevant.

In other cases, I fail to see what wider significance an entry could have. E.g., I have removed an entry saying

• The number of ravioli in each can from Chef Boyardee

from the article 14 (number).

Is there a general discussion about thee lists in the number articles anywhere? --Niels Ø 08:24, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

There are some guidelines for what goes in the "other fields" section at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numbers#Criterion_for_Including_Cultural_Associations, but I'm pretty sure that numbers relating to canned food have not been addressed either there nor in the project talk page.

The question I would ask in this case first, is: can this be verified? I have some cans of Chef Boyardee in my emergency shelter back home. If I were to open two of those cans, would I find that they have the same number of ravioli? If the answer is yes to both this question, the next question to ask is: how universal is this factoid? Would a can of generic brand 14 oz. ravioli can have the same number of ravioli? (It's pretty universal that cans of Vienna sausages have 7 or 19 sausages each, regardless of brand). PrimeFan 15:45, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I added the entry, after hearing the fact on FoodTV's "Unwrapped" last night (see edit summary). I won't restore the edit myself because I refuse to engage petty revert wars. However, I do believe its inclusion is justified simply on the basis of trivia -- and it carries no more or less "wider significance" than any other piece of trivia. Who might be interested? Someone composing a crossword puzzle, or designing a factoid quiz, or writing a birthday card for 14-year-olds, or a thousand other admittedly-inane possibilities. See policy: Wikipedia is not paper; and in an encyclopedia that carries extensive entries for video game characters and imaginary micronations, I wouldn't have thought this inocuous factoid would attract someone rushing to delete it.

when you ask "Who might be interested?" your preaching to the choir. most of these guys have fouhgt to keep similar trivia bits in wikipedia.

but as a college student who'se had to eat a lot of chef boyardee's, i can tell you taht the number 14 is not quite right. in every can their is usually one or three half ravioli. so maybe it's not 14, it could be 13 and a half or 14 and a half. 141.217.25.161 02:53, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I had a can of Boyardee ravioli for lunch earlier today. It indeed had 14 ravioli. So if I can find a link (preferrably from the Chef Boyardee website) confirming this fact, I will restore it. Anton Mravcek 00:43, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I initiated this discussion, not as a discussion about the veracity of the statement on the number of ravioli in a can, but as a discussion about the relevance of that statement to the article.

The link Wikipedia:WikiProject_Numbers#Criterion_for_Including_Cultural_Associations, supplied by PrimeFan earlier in this discussion, seems to make it clear that it is not relevant.--Niels Ø 06:43, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Dead link 2

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--JeffGBot (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

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Baker's Dozen

The Baker's Dozen is defined as 13 or 14.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/Bakers%20dozen.html

174.22.14.81 (talk) 11:17, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

No reason to believe that that's a reliable source. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:55, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Baker's dozen is only 13. Get your head out of your ass. 199.120.30.207 (talk) 00:29, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Retired jersey numbers

Per WP:PRESERVE, here is the list of retired #14 jersey numbers and racecars that were mentioned in the article:

• In Association football the number 14 was the number worn by and associated with Johan Cruyff. In 2007, to honour his 60th birthday, his first club AFC Ajax decided to never use it again.
• In the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, the #14 car is currently owned by Stewart Haas Racing. Since 2009, it has been driven by team co-owner Tony Stewart.
• In Formula One the number 14 is used by Fernando Alonso, the 2005 and 2006 world champion, for McLaren F1
• The jersey number 14 has been retired by several North American sports teams in honor of past playing greats or other key figures:
  • In Major League Baseball:
    • The Boston Red Sox, for Hall of Famer Jim Rice.
    • The Chicago Cubs, for Hall of Famer Ernie Banks.
    • The Cincinnati Reds, for Pete Rose, who also managed the team.
    • The Cleveland Indians, for Hall of Fame player Larry Doby, who also managed the team.
    • The Minnesota Twins, for Kent Hrbek.
    • The New York Mets, for Gil Hodges, who both played for and managed the team.
    • The Philadelphia Phillies, for Hall of Famer Jim Bunning.
    • The St. Louis Cardinals, for Ken Boyer.
  • In the NBA:
    • The Boston Celtics, for Hall of Famer Bob Cousy.
    • The Golden State Warriors, for Tom Meschery, who played for the team in its past incarnations as the Philadelphia and San Francisco Warriors.
    • The Milwaukee Bucks, for Jon McGlocklin.
    • The Portland Trail Blazers, for Lionel Hollins.
    • The Sacramento Kings, for Hall of Famer Oscar Robertson, who played for the team when it was known as the Cincinnati Royals.
    • The Utah Jazz, for Jeff Hornacek.
  • In the NFL:
    • The Cleveland Browns, for Hall of Famer Otto Graham.
    • The Green Bay Packers, for Hall of Famer Don Hutson.
    • The New York Giants, for Hall of Famer Y. A. Tittle.
    • The San Diego Chargers, for Hall of Famer Dan Fouts.
  • In the NHL:
    • The Buffalo Sabres, for René Robert.

This material may be of interest for a future List of retired numbers in sports article. — JFG ^talk 22:42, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

References

Bingo names -

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numbers#List of British bingo nicknames for a centralized discusion as to whether Bingo names should be included in thiese articles. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)